G1 Transformers Size, Power, and Mass

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

G1 Transformers in retrospect should have just continued with the next season in continuity without the time jump of the Animated Movie, which was a flop in theaters.

The killing off of the established characters in the animated movie made fans feel betrayed. It communicated to them that the toys they had bought and invested in were now worthless.

So, kids turned their backs on the franchise that turned its back on them.

Yeah... I'm afraid them's fightin' words. *rolls up his sleeves*

 

[Princess Viola]

I'm pretty sure it was the parents who bought most of the toys.

 

[ooo-baby]

The G1 cartoon had plenty of places they could go. They should have taken their cue from the G1 Marvel comics:

That’s how you get kids excited about a new toy.

Powermaster Optimus Prime seems surprising similar to:

 

[Haywire]

They're both based on the same toy. The early-2000s reissue of Powermaster Prime even came with the "Apex Armor", which was the extra Godbomber trailer that Ginrai had.

 

[ooo-baby]

It was really up to the G1 Marvel Comics to sell the 1988 Transformers toyline:

That’s what pushed it to be the best!

 

[ooo-baby]

yeah, because sky lynx is better than omega supreme.

Sky Lynx is supposed to be a Giant Space Shuttle but he’s the same size as Astrotrain:

whereas Omega Supreme is:

Well, you get the picture:

Look at the difference in their sizes.

 

[Sabrblade]

Both Sky Lynx and Astrotrain can change their sizes.

 

[ooo-baby]

I’m not really a fan of Fortress Maximus but I have to admit this is pretty cool:

 

[ooo-baby]

This is some pretty good sh%t as well:

 

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

Powermaster Optimus Prime seems surprising similar to:

...I don't see it.

 

[ooo-baby]

Some of then Japanese G1 can be dubbed to create more American G1:

Everyone would assume this is G1 Optimus Prime.

 

[Princess Viola]

Some of then Japanese G1 can be dubbed to create more American G1:

Everyone would assume this is G1 Optimus Prime.

 

[ooo-baby]

So much unrealized potential:

Again the 1986 Animated Movie ruined all of this.

 

[ooo-baby]

Bring back motorized G1 Transformers:

 

[Blot]

Some of then Japanese G1 can be dubbed to create more American G1:

Everyone would assume this is G1 Optimus Prime.

But it isn't, it's a separate character named Ginrai who is not Optimus Prime.

 

[ooo-baby]

But it isn't, it's a separate character named Ginrai who is not Optimus Prime.

God Ginrai is essentially the same as Powermaster Optimus Prime in the G1 Marvel Comics. Plus, they’re both the same toy.

 

[Sabrblade]

God Ginrai is essentially the same as Powermaster Optimus Prime in the G1 Marvel Comics. Plus, they’re both the same toy.

Yes, but Ginrai is a human. Optimus Prime is not. The transforming truck that Ginrai combines with is not alive. Ginrai is the sole mind and soul in control of the truck robot.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

God Ginrai is essentially the same as Powermaster Optimus Prime in the G1 Marvel Comics. Plus, they’re both the same toy.

They actually have not been the same toy even once. They're close enough that one toy should easily suffice for both of them, but somehow it has never happened. Their toys are always at least slightly different.

 

[ooo-baby]

Yes, but Ginrai is a human. Optimus Prime is not. The transforming truck that Ginrai combines with is not alive. Ginrai is the sole mind and soul in control of the truck robot.

In the end of the G1 Marvel Comics, Optimus Prime was human. And if I recall correctly, the transforming truck robot was not alive and was rebuilt by Primus. And even when the Powermaster body was built the first time and Optimus’ consciousness was transferred into it initially from the computer disk, it was not viable. Optimus was dying, so that’s why the nebulan human had to be added, melded so that Optimus Prime could live. So Optimus and the nebulan became one and the same. Optimus had essentially become human and his transforming truck robot became just a Pretender shell, not alive.

 

[Sabrblade]

In the end of the G1 Marvel Comics, Optimus Prime was human. And if I recall correctly, the transforming truck robot was not alive and was rebuilt by Primus. And even when the Powermaster body was built the first time and Optimus’ consciousness was transferred into it initially from the computer disk, it was not viable. Optimus was dying, so that’s why the nebulan human had to be added, melded so that Optimus Prime could live. So Optimus and the nebulan became one and the same. Optimus had essentially become human and his transforming truck robot became just a Pretender shell, not alive.

None of that applies to Ginrai, though. His situation was completely different.