Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

CoffeeHorse

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Step 1: Don't listen to me. I'm not a professional.
I mean, I do have the degrees but this job market sucks.
Step 2: Don't listen to professionals.

Step 3: Listen to yourself. If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.

Step 4: Pick companies you can understand, not companies you think are the best deals. Within reason. The important thing is that when you hear news, you have an idea whether that should drive the price up or down because you have some idea what a company actually does and how they do it. You'll never be as fast as a computer, but you will be faster than people who hear news and then try to figure out what stock is going to be the best deal. You'll have your shopping list ready to go.

Step 5: Don't pick too many. Everyone to tells you to diversify your portfolio. Eh. It's a good idea, but unless you're handing your portfolio over to a professional to manage for you, don't pick more than you can comprehend. If you have a few companies in mind, and you're diversified for a few scenarios in mind, great. If you pick companies you can understand but you pick more than you can practically keep up with, you're giving up your advantage. If you don't understand it anymore, at that point you're just diversified for the sake of playing the odds that it can't all go down at once. Don't play the odds. If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.

Step 5: If you do hand your portfolio over to a professional to manage for you (don't do it), it is still not a good idea to have them doing something you don't comprehend.

Step 6: For God's sake don't gamble with money you don't have. This might actually be the biggest thing. Don't let a professional tell you it's "margin". Like "leverage", margin is just a stupid euphemism for "You're in debt, dude." Professionals will try to talk you into doing this, because that is their actual business. They're not advisors, and they are not your friends. They are loan sharks. They'll tell you the amount of stock you can buy isn't really enough to matter, but if you borrow money you can buy enough to have a real big boy portfolio. Don't do it. It'll look like you have a big portfolio, but you don't, because you're in debt, dude. You're hoping it'll go up enough to pay back what you owe and make a profit. And if it goes down you're hugged. When you see stocks down and you hear people whining that they lost money, it's not just boomers who for some reason sell when they see red and then say "I lost money. How did that happen?" That is absolutely a thing, and finance people love them because they are so easy. But anyway, it's also people who bought on margin went into debt. Maybe they haven't actually sold, so they haven't actually lost that yet, but they still owe what they borrowed. So they will lose the money. With interest. Again, that's the actual business. Don't swim with loan sharks.

Step 7: Relax. If you don't borrow money and you do just buy a handful of shares of something you understand with what little you can afford to play with, relax. When Trump announces tariffs and stocks crash, relax. Unlike people who let a professional talk them into going into debt to buy portfolios that looked misleadingly bigger than yours, you haven't lost anything yet. If you understand what you're invested in, and you understand that it should go back up, buy another handful of shares with however little you can afford to play with. Enjoy the ride when it goes back up. Sell when it feels high enough and you need cash. Or sell when someone says something mean about Trump, sell because he will say something in response that makes it take a nosedive. Then buy the dip before he walks it back. If you're not borrowing money to do this and your gains aren't being eaten by interest and fees, it really doesn't matter if you're not perfectly timing the exact highs and lows down to the penny.
 

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Of course they have the audacity to ruin penguins on this, the year of the Linux desktop.
 

abates

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Wow, sounds like two thirds of the crew who worked on the Melania documentary film have requested their names be removed from the film.
I assume when the credits roll, a bunch of them will be redacted Epstein Files style.
 

Pale Rider

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When a Trumper says "when you say that, it only pushes me into the Trump camp", he is trying to tell you to stop saying that. Therefore, you should say it MORE.

You don't think they're trying to give you good advice out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? They're telling you "I hate when you do that, it really bothers me" and they're trying to package it as if it's sincere advice meant for your benefit. It's not. It's always for their benefit, not yours.

The same goes for "cancel culture" and causing family friction over politics. We need to do it more, not less. They obviously hate it, which is why they've demonized it so much for the past 30 years, going right back to when they used to call it "political correctness". And if they hate it, that means you should keep doing it. When they tell you to stop doing it for your own good, what they actually mean is "stop doing it for MY own good".

What the hell will it take for people to realize that these people are not trying to be helpful when they tell you how you should protest them? When they tell you what the "proper" way is to protest them, what they actually mean is "this won't work at all, so please keep doing that". When they tell you that you're doing it wrong, what they mean is "this actually has an effect and I don't like it, so please stop".

There's a certain kind of liberal who would see me fighting conservatives in comment sections online for years now, and who would say things like "I agree with your position but your behaviour is unacceptable".

And then they'd enjoy a nice round of mutual back-patting with the Trumpers who congratulated them on understanding the right way to argue, and they would all agree that my online belligerence gave liberals and leftists a bad name while their own grovelling quisling toadyism was a credit to liberalism. Always manners before morality, eh?
ICE goons are the sort of men who have fantasized about killing someone for years. These are men for whom no trauma counselling would ever be required after they kill someone, because it is definitely not traumatic: they enjoyed it.

That's what it means when they disarm a man and then shoot him in the head. They're not acting out of adrenaline or fear. They were thinking "He had a gun, now I have an excuse to kill him and get away with it. Awesome!".

And the same goes for Republicans making excuses for this. They don't actually know or care whether he fired first (obviously, he didn't). They're just pretending to think that, so you'll waste time arguing with them about this fake excuse and they won't have to defend their REAL reason for supporting it, ie- that they think all liberals and leftists deserve to die, so they don't care when they hear about it happening.
There is a straight line from Alex Pretti to Renee Good, the 3 men shot by Kyle Rittenhouse, and all the way back to Trayvon Martin. A pattern of unaccountability for high-profile right-wing vigilante slayings is exactly how we ended up here, in a place where a bunch of goons can execute a man in broad daylight and then walk away mocking the victim while right-wing media defends their actions because he was on the wrong side.

Everyone (and we're talking about millions of people here) who defended George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse was helping to lay the foundations for this outcome. This is what they all wanted, and now they have it.
 

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Next up - FBI raids in all the states that won't hand over their voter data.

Oh, and it looks like Pretti had a run-in with federal officers 11 days prior to his execution, so it's looking like either this was pre-meditated or at least he was on their watch list and it was a crime of opportunity.
 
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Ungnome

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Assuming the videos of said altercation are real Pretti's legs should have been registered as deadly weapons.
 

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Ultra Magnus13

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Next up - FBI raids in all the states that won't hand over their voter data.

Oh, and it looks like Pretti had a run-in with federal officers 11 days prior to his execution, so it's looking like either this was pre-meditated or at least he was on their watch list and it was a crime of opportunity.

Are you suggesting that the person who shot him was one of the handful of agents who interacted with him previously, and over the course of those 40 seconds wrestling with him while wearing a gas mask, they recognized him enough to ID him, track him, and then accosted other people near him to lure him into stepping in, so they could then engage him?

Please stop with nonsense conspiracy theories.

He was killed because of people with some mixture of insufficient training, or inappropriate personality/mental state.
 

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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Are you suggesting that the person who shot him was one of the handful of agents who interacted with him previously, and over the course of those 40 seconds wrestling with him while wearing a gas mask, they recognized him enough to ID him, track him, and then accosted other people near him to lure him into stepping in, so they could then engage him?

Please stop with nonsense conspiracy theories.

He was killed because of people with some mixture of insufficient training, or inappropriate personality/mental state.
I'll admit the premeditated part is a stretch, but I stand by my theory that this was at least a crime of opportunity. I don't think you realize the tools the ICE has at it's disposal for profiling and monitoring anybody they want to. I think they knew him well enough to know where he would likely be, and were just looking for the opportunity to teach him a lesson. Now maybe killing him was not part of the initial plan, but all it takes is a meathead or two with an itchy trigger finger to put us in this situation.

Basically, someone saw him, recognized him, and called over all their buddies to put the smack down on him; but they got carried away and we have what happened.
 

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Coming this fall to Washington, DC:

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wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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So it turns out that epstein pushed the CEO of activision blizzard into heaping microtransactions onto kids. Our MTX hellscape is because of a pedophile...
 

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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Just a reminder how much fun the mid-terms are going to be:


Remember how I said they'd have armed men at every polling place (well, the ones in Democratic majority districts anyway):


https://www.democracydocket.com/opi...-over-voting-mike-johnson-is-willing-to-help/

On the other hand,

 


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