Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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Look, kid: we all want trump dropped hans gruber style. But that's not how reality works. Every time trump has to run to court is a win. Every time he has to find a new way to do the same horrible thing is win, every time he ignores a court order (as hard as it is to believe...) IS A WIN! Yes, he's doing horrible things in the mean time, but he was going to do them anyway.
Because it's all precedent for to be used in court against him when adults are in charge again. Court cases he'll lose because he's blatantly, obviously and deliberately breaking the law. More importantly; it's closing means and methods for the next cargo cult fascist that would try this.
There will be midterms, trump cannot stop them. He'll scream about them, lie about them, attempt to sabotage them; but he cannot stop them. And we know this because of how hard republicans are gerrymandering and voter roll purging. It also won't help: they are hated and the people are (finally.) motivated. Trump won last time because of apathy and nothing else.
The US is speedrunning the fascist dictator trope and has gone farther in one year than most dictatorships do in one generation. The good guys are winning, but the nature of the conflict will always make it look like a come from behind, unexpected victory. That's what happens when dictators control the media.
Or he'll be dead. Still nearly 3 years until the 2028 elections and, well, he's 79 and not in the best of health despite what he pays his doctors to tell us. He's already starting to lose control of his cult and without him, the cult fractures.
Court rules that ICE can't use tear gas on peaceful protesters. They also are barred from detaining peaceful protesters. It's a win, plain and simple. They will likely still try detaining people by making claims of interference, but that will require a bit more burden of proof and will open them up to more lawsuits and, well, with the court ruling in place might give people more weight to win civil cases against individual ICE agents.(You don't get immunity if you're knowingly violating the court's ruling)
Which opens them up to civil and thusly criminal liability. The US public will drain that bloated budget in court.
Trump threatens 25% tariff on European allies until Denmark sells Greenland to US
Heads of state across Europe respond in solidarity with Denmark and Greenland, and boycott of World Cup suggested
www.theguardian.com
Fifa officials now somewhat embarrassed about Trump getting the Fifa Peace Prize shortly before *waves hands* everything else:
www.theguardian.com
Growing sense of embarrassment at Fifa over Donald Trump peace prize
There is a growing sense of embarrassment among mid-level and senior officials within Fifa over the awarding of the peace prize to Donald Trump
www.theguardian.com
But not enough for a mass resignation in protest, I guess.
He's like a schoolyard bully who wants to pick a fight but tries to get the other side to throw the first punch so he can pretend it was self defense. Only instead of a playground brawl, it's either a total economic crash of the US, or straight up World War 3.
And of course Russia is pushing for it.
www.bbc.com
If it doesn't go straight to the post:
Trump speaks at White House as Macron warns of shift to 'world without rules'
The US president earlier said Nato would be in "the ash heap of history" without him, after doubling down on his Greenland demands.
www.bbc.com
If it doesn't go straight to the post:
If Europe is busy looking at Trump, they're not looking at Ukraine. Of course Putin is thrilled about his sockpuppet making noise.
Of course. Russia's aim is to destabilise Europe and remove the US's support for European security so Ukraine is less defended. Trump's plan to annex Greenland is perfect for their aims.
I dunno why Trump keeps insisting Greenland is under threat from China, a country that is nowhere near Greenland and which is focussed on forging ties with nations in the Pacific, but I guess it's so Russia and Trump's buddy Putin aren't taking all the heat.
I dunno why Trump keeps insisting Greenland is under threat from China, a country that is nowhere near Greenland and which is focussed on forging ties with nations in the Pacific, but I guess it's so Russia and Trump's buddy Putin aren't taking all the heat.
"I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace" will be one of history's iconic quotes someday.
China is the classic "big enemy nation" among old-school racists (or pretty much anywhere in the Middle East, but that would put more attention on Iran and Palestine instead of on himself). He's either appealing to his base, showing his age, or most likely both.
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I don't even believe this is Trump's idea. Someone planted the idea of annexing Greenland into his head specifically because it's the dumbest thing they could think of that would also get all of Europe to oppose him militarily and/or lead to mass desertion or even a coup by his own military.
Which, without knowing more about this person's intentions or plans, so far strikes me as a morally neutral action.
Which, without knowing more about this person's intentions or plans, so far strikes me as a morally neutral action.
And just like Venezuela's oil, Greenland's minerals won't be easy to turn into value.
Venezuela has some of the largest proven oil reserves in the world, but decades of underinvestment, mismanagement, sanctions and degraded infrastructure have left its oil industry producing far below capacity. Bringing that output back even partway has taken billions of dollars and a lot of years of investment, and experts still say it won't happen quickly.
Similarly, Greenland's rare earths and other minerals are stuck in a harsh Arctic environment with almost no infrastructure, meaning building mines and processing facilities would take huge upfront costs and long lead times before anything tangible comes out of the ground.
Neither place is a shortcut to instant strategic wealth.
Venezuela has some of the largest proven oil reserves in the world, but decades of underinvestment, mismanagement, sanctions and degraded infrastructure have left its oil industry producing far below capacity. Bringing that output back even partway has taken billions of dollars and a lot of years of investment, and experts still say it won't happen quickly.
Similarly, Greenland's rare earths and other minerals are stuck in a harsh Arctic environment with almost no infrastructure, meaning building mines and processing facilities would take huge upfront costs and long lead times before anything tangible comes out of the ground.
Neither place is a shortcut to instant strategic wealth.