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Rhinox

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This was mostly skipped over given the news of a massive blue wave, but this is important to note. The Powers That Be want their view to be the only one presented. The monopolies on news organizations and the press in general should still scare everyone.

That said, we're all very excited that there's finally real pushback to the Trump Agenda.

I do think we're good to change the title, perhaps remove a couple of names. . . .
 

wonko the sane?

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From the statistics... another aging democrat that probably shouldn't be seeking re-election.

OR; you can scream at your reps and the DNC to push more progressive and younger candidates. Cause that seems to be working right now.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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Nancy Pelosi is another aging Democrat who's finally stepping down and won't seek re-election in 2026. We'll see what ends up replacing her next year.

From the statistics... another aging democrat that probably shouldn't be seeking re-election.

OR; you can scream at your reps and the DNC to push more progressive and younger candidates. Cause that seems to be working right now.
It's probably worth remembering that this is, specifically, the district in which San Francisco exists. They're far more likely to push for "more progressive and younger" than other parts of the country, even. Especially now that the long-time incumbent isn't a factor.
 

Pocket

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The important thing is that younger and more progressive people actually run. Trouble is, these days young and politically motivated people tend to keep their politicking to social media where it can be of maximum uselessness.
 

Rhinox

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Very true. When you're just not happy it's easy to just yell and whine online. When life is beating your ******* ass, though . . . . .it's a lot easier to step up.
 

Pocket

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VIRGINIA! YOU HAVE DONE IT! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Ironbite-looking like we're going very blue in fact.
For context, they went from 51-48 in the House of Delegates to 64-36. It's being reported as a "supermajority" despite being less than two thirds, so maybe they measure that differently than Congress. Democrats already hold a slight majority in the state Senate, and their current governor is a Republican who narrowly edged out a former (but not sitting) governor in 2021. (Virginia does not allow governors to serve multiple consecutive terms, but does allow for nonconsecutive ones. I'd never heard of that before, and I'm intrigued.)
 

wonko the sane?

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A super majority in a voting body is usually defined as "opposition can vote unilaterally and still not overturn majority vote".
 

G.B.Blackrock

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For context, they went from 51-48 in the House of Delegates to 64-36. It's being reported as a "supermajority" despite being less than two thirds, so maybe they measure that differently than Congress. Democrats already hold a slight majority in the state Senate, and their current governor is a Republican who narrowly edged out a former (but not sitting) governor in 2021. (Virginia does not allow governors to serve multiple consecutive terms, but does allow for nonconsecutive ones. I'd never heard of that before, and I'm intrigued.)

A super majority in a voting body is usually defined as "opposition can vote unilaterally and still not overturn majority vote".
Perhaps the threshold for that is 60 in Virginia? Kind of like how you need 60 (not two-thirds) to bypass a filibuster in the US Senate
 

Ironbite4

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Don't look at me. I just live here and I'm not sure what constitutes a supermajority in our legislature.

But for context about Tuesday's win that should be very very very worrying to the GOP is that there were a lot of red strongholds, places that have been reliably red for decades, went blue here. Like Spotsylvania went for Trump last year by +18. Spanberger turned it around +2. That's an amazing turn around for just a year removed from the Presidential election.

Ironbite-and yet Trump doesn't get it.
 

wonko the sane?

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Trump has dementia: he will never get it. Even if he wasn't waltzing downs alzheimers avenue: his psychopathy and narcissism would never let him admit fault or accept blame or responsibility.

He is utterly incapable of getting it, pathologically even. He'll jive his own pants and blame biden.
 

Rhinox

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Seriously. Trump has made up his mind and the downside of being surrounded by yes men is that even when they tell him 'no', he's been far too convinced his jive doesn't stink.
The cult will never turn, but we're seeing in real time just how few are actually in the cult. they're all just super loud.
 

Ironbite4

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Opps looks like Schumer has learned nothing from Tuesday as he offers the Republicans an out for the shutdown that basically makes the entireity of the the special election wins...moot.


Just gotta snatch defeat from the jaws of victory eh Chuck? God you're such an idiot.


Ironbite-thank god the GOP are worse.
 

Ironbite4

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2028. But this might have been him gauging Republican interest in reopening the government. As well as reconvening the House. Something Johnson really really really doesn't want to do.

Ironbite-cause that'd mean sitting the final Epstine Files vote.
 

wonko the sane?

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It's not only something johnson doesn't care to do: they have no reason to negotiate the ACA subsidies after it's open. They'll just stab the the democrats in the back in a wonder of amazingly short term laughs over long term gain.
 

M. Virion

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Opps looks like Schumer has learned nothing from Tuesday as he offers the Republicans an out for the shutdown that basically makes the entireity of the the special election wins...moot.


Just gotta snatch defeat from the jaws of victory eh Chuck? God you're such an idiot.


Ironbite-thank god the GOP are worse.

This was a REALLY good political move, though. IF the Republicans had accepted this deal, the ACA subsidies would be funded for a year. Which is good for actual people who actually need help. Then next year, at Midterms this would all be on the table again and fresh in voters minds

If the Republicans didn't accept, which is what happened (They rejected it almost immediately), then nothing changes but the dialogue now demonstrates that Republicans FULLY own this shut down because they're refusing ANY negotiation.

So in summary, this currently changed literally nothing. Nothing was lost, nothing was snatched away. The situation today is identical to yesterday only the Republicans look worse.

I do not like that I'm having to defend Schumer here, I don't like Schumer, but this was not bad politics. It's some of the only smart politics he's used in a while.
 


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