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Sabrblade

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Despite the name, Big Convoy isn't actually all that big. He's the same height in robot mode as Lio Convoy and Optimus Primal. Even his original toy was shorter than both of theirs, while both of their MPs were scaled to the height of his original toy.

Conversely, Magmatron is huge. He towers over Big Convoy in the cartoon. In a sense, both he and Galvatron are big dudes, while Big Convoy and Lio Convoy are medium-sized.

In fact, this was also true of Optimus Primal and Megatron in Beast Wars season 1, which is why their Kingdom toys were a short Voyager and a good-sized Leader, respectively. It was only when the two became Transmetals that they became more equal in height, with Optimus becoming a lot bigger to match Megatron.

And then of course the two went even BIGGER in their Season 3 upgraded forms, which actually means that the POTP Optimal Optimus and Legacy TM2 Megatron toys being Leaders makes them both too small to accurately represent just how massive they were when compared to both their Season 1 and Transmetal bodies.
 
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Magnusblitz

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Nah, just skip the BW2 colors and make him Ultra Mammoth!

Agreed, I'd probably pass on a Big Convoy but would definitely be interested in Ultra Mammoth colors. Or 2004 Universe Nemesis Prime, one of the few toys I kick myself for not picking up back in the day when I had the chance.
 

Sabrblade

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Agreed, I'd probably pass on a Big Convoy but would definitely be interested in Ultra Mammoth colors. Or 2004 Universe Nemesis Prime, one of the few toys I kick myself for not picking up back in the day when I had the chance.
Heh, I just picked up a loose complete Universe Nemesis Prime at last year's BotCon. For reasonably cheap, too.
 

Stepwise

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Agreed...Deluxe Class Spychangers please Hasbro.

Sideswipe could be a starting point for R.E.V. and Crosswise, Jazz could possibly be a starting point for Hot Shot. Not sure about Wars off the top of my head (such a weird name). But once they got these started, there are so may recolors they could do, especially if they went back through some of the G2 Go-Bots. I'd love to have a deluxe version of Firecracker.
 

Sabrblade

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But you know what? I'm going to throw my support behind the name W.A.R.S. Yeah, that's how it's spelled and it is HARDCORE. What kind of bot has a name liked W.A.R.S.? A true bad-ass, that's what! Wicked Attack Recon Sportscar. In what world is that NOT awesome? Not one I want to live in, that's what!
You know what makes him even more hardcore? The fact that he's voiced by Steve Blum!
 

PrimalxConvoy

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LBD "Nytetrayn"

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You could just watch both series on YouTube, courtesy of Karyuudo Fansubs.
Well aware, and that's the plan if push comes to shove when the time comes.

However, that doesn't look as good on my shelf next to the other series. ;P
 

G.B.Blackrock

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How they were able to have a figure called "Lio Convoy"?
Honestly, a previous comment to the contrary notwithstanding, I don't think anything's stopping Hasbro, even now, from using the word "Convoy" if they wanted to. People are just more familiar with Prime, and Hasbro likes to lean into their most popular character. The club, on the other hand, enjoyed highlighting the more obscure corners of the franchise, and had little need to promote Prime, specifically.

(EDIT: I missed Sabrblade's explanation, which came after the post I'm quoting. I'm happy to concede that, in the current era of shared packaging, a toy that will be sold in Japan can't have the word "Convoy" on it if some other Japanese company has "Convoy" trademarked. It wouldn't have affected Hasbro selling such items only in America, but that's not the current reality.)
 

The Predaking

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Woot! Stopped by the Target 'near' work and got Inferno! They had two Armada Starscreams there too, but I passed on them. Inferno is definitely a good add for my Beast Wars remastered collection!
 

Haywire

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If I remember right, the club was specifically barred from using the Prime moniker for a time, wasn't it? I thought that's how the Nexus Maximus debacle happened...
 

PrimalxConvoy

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...in the current era of shared packaging, a toy that will be sold in Japan can't have the word "Convoy" on it if some other Japanese company has "Convoy" trademarked. It wouldn't have affected Hasbro selling such items only in America, but that's not the current reality.)

I'm not familiar with "Convoy" being blocked in Japan. It was used, even after the Michael Bay films, in Japan. As far as I recall, the main reason Takara-Tomy have used "Prime" is due to the trademark for the Bay film items (toys, etc) and to align more with TFs outside Japan ) shared packaging, etc). If Hasbro called it "Lio Convoy" in English, I don't think that would cause any problems for Takara-Tomy. Furthermore, Takara-Tomy adds stickers over the US packaging in Japan, which covers over/replaces info that's not relevant (or possibly permissable) in Japan/their market. Thus, I believe it's just a preference on Hasbro's part and that they could use it if they wanted to. As for the a term being trademarked (or otherwise legally protected), I've found that in Japan, it's a bit looser n some cases. For example, there are many companies called "Takara" over here, including a chain of second-hand shops, which sell, amongst other things, second-have Transformers toys.
 
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G.B.Blackrock

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If I remember right, the club was specifically barred from using the Prime moniker for a time, wasn't it? I thought that's how the Nexus Maximus debacle happened...
There WAS a desire to avoid using "Prime," but I expect that this was long-gone by the time of the Lio Convoy exclusive (very probably in part because of that debacle)
 

NovaSaber

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They first announced Nexus Prime's name as "Nexus Maximus" (called that specifically because Hasbro didn't want "Prime" in his name), a name that turned out to already be in use for an unrelated product.

The reason they didn't find this beforehand was because they'd checked with safe search on...
 


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