I'd try to pay $200. Eventually, I might even be able to.
And yeah, it is IDW's fault. They went to Hasbro to pitch the shaded universe idea, not the other way around.
If you're going to do a shaded Hasbro universe then you need to start small. Transformers (their most viable and visible brand) and GI Joe (struggling but probably #2 by default) are the best choices. And just let them grow on their own.
And MAYBE, if things break right, you try a Rom comic down the line or something, and see how that does as a self-contained story before having him meet Optimus Prime.
Someone get ToyHax on it.
I agree with all of this.... I'd just like to see them take their time. IDW pushed the Revolution-verse out at once and in retrospect there were too many IPs not enough people cared about.
I think making Visionaries or Inhumanoids or Rom and the Space Knights work would require it taking time, and rolling them out slowly to let them feel established first.
Mobile Armored Strike Krusaders?And the theme song did refer to them as "crusaders".
Wow, could you imagine if they'd made that a part, too?Problem was, as I said earlier, Hasbro's IP list is deep on paper, less so in reality. Transformers and MAYBE GI Joe are the only ones with any pop culture currency. They hadn't even bought Power Ranger yet.
This just really highlights the oddity of the fan reaction to me. Star Convoy was a bigger toy than Grandus. In all the artwork I've seen from the manga and story pages, Star Convoy was at least as big as, if not bigger than, Grandus. And yet, while I always see a lot of talk about wanting a Titan Grandus, the biggest response to Titan Star Convoy seems to be that it's going to be too big unless it's a set.What if this is the Titan version? I’d pay $200.
Okay, after the second time, I'm not sure if "shaded" is just am amusingly appropriate typo anymore.
It would be wild.Wow, could you imagine if they'd made that a part, too?
Just goes to show that Grandus oughtn't be a Titan of his own, either.This just really highlights the oddity of the fan reaction to me. Star Convoy was a bigger toy than Grandus. In all the artwork I've seen from the manga and story pages, Star Convoy was at least as big as, if not bigger than, Grandus. And yet, while I always see a lot of talk about wanting a Titan Grandus, the biggest response to Titan Star Convoy seems to be that it's going to be too big unless it's a set.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: They are big guys, yes, but not as big as Cityformers like Fort Max and Metroplex. They're more like the height of Combiners.I get it on some level. Standard Optimus should not be a Titan. And Grandus is supposed to be pretty big, and his look gives off a Fort Max-style gargantuan appearance. But Star Convoy is not just a standard Optimus. This isn't like Armada Tidal Wave, where you can pick from either media showing him just a bit bigger than other boys or media showing him to be gigantic. As far as I can tell, everything from the era indicates Grandus should be big, but Star Convoy should be even bigger.
For that matter, with Prime's MECH, we have a VENOM analogue all ready to go.I was reviewing the comics for the front page when Revolution was a thing and I admit I was into it at the time. Like... if you're going to have the Transformers interact with a human military org why not make it GI Joe? The EDC, S7, NEST, GHOST, Skywatch, etc...
You could even build in a lore connection: Zordon (or whoever built the Zords) was originally affiliated with the Quintessons (or maybe even a Quintesson themselves); the Zords are based on the same technology that would go on to become the Transformers, just with organic pilots subbed in for the sparks (the Rangers' suits allow them to link up to their Zords symbiotically).Though I think Power Rangers might be an IP that's the easiest to tie in to Transformers. lastmaximal pointed out that having Transformers on Earth kind of escalates any status quo for GI Joe vs Cobra or MASK vs VENOM, but Power Rangers is about transforming robots and cosmic threats attacking the Earth.
Seems like an easier time fitting that in with Transformers.
Funny, people were comparing MECH more to Cobra at the time.For that matter, with Prime's MECH, we have a VENOM analogue all ready to go.
True, but Cobra-plus-obsession-with-transforming-tech kinda leads inevitably to Venom.Funny, people were comparing MECH more to Cobra at the time.
It's always tricky having GI Joe and Transformers coexist in the same universe because the latter element escalates things immediately. It's hard to isolate and ignore it for the sake of telling GI Joe stories. They're the elephant in the room that always has to be acknowledged because why would a special military strike force not be deployed to deal with this sort of thing?
Unless you keep it to early stages of Infiltration protocol, and culminate with the GI Joes or Cobra or both stumbling upon the facsimiles used by the Decepticons. But from there the state of play has to change. Transformers becomes the Poochie of the world GI Joe inhabits.
Which isn't bad per se because there's plenty of stories to be told with that interaction, but it's a pervasive undercurrent for GI Joe stories that will have to be accounted for. Just shared universe things.
I think it's workable enough on a per-story basis (response and travel time alone would be a big card to play), but it's not the sort of thing that can keep happening that way and just be ignored. Before long it's "some highly trained special mission force, lol".
But like I said and to your point, the robots in disguise element can be leveraged if the coexistence is mostly done while the Cybertronians are in infiltration mode. That keeps the Transformers unknown/undiscovered and hiding, and turns it into a mystery the Joes need to track down over time rather than repeated "Dangit, just missed 'em".
I just wish that some of these groups stuck around after the series that spawned them. MECH is cool. Why not use it in other stories?For that matter, with Prime's MECH, we have a VENOM analogue all ready to go.