Transformers: Age of the Primes Thread: ll First Post All Listings II Update : April 12th, 2027 Bonus Wave: Repaint fun, Beast Wars, G2, Machine Wars

[Sciflyer]

What also doesn't help the silhouette, IMO, is the way that the arms stretch out Vortex and Blast Off, making them appear much longer than they should be. I know that it's out of necessity and part of the frame system, but it translates to the legs looking far too squat in comparison. Also, I look at the cartoon model for Onslaught's feet and then what the toy is doing, and sheesh...not good.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Well, now I'm having second thoughts about the Combaticons. That really looks bad.

 

[Sciflyer]

The thing is, it's better at being a more faithful G1 version of Bruticus than the CW/UW releases. However, I still have the UW version, and I'm having a hard time convincing myself that this is meaningfully better and worthy of a purchase.

 

[lastmaximal]

What also doesn't help the silhouette, IMO, is the way that the arms stretch out Vortex and Blast Off, making them appear much longer than they should be. I know that it's out of necessity and part of the frame system, but it translates to the legs look far too squat in comparison. Also, I look at the cartoon model for Onslaught's feet and then what the toy is doing, and sheesh...not good.

I think that's definitely a consideration. Those fists end up a bit too close to the knees. I have to wonder, though, if it's also a casualty of Swindle and Brawl having to be 2/3 of their vehicle mode length in combined mode, due to the need for them to wad up and form boot-fronts.

It's a bit of a shame because Onslaught looks pretty good, and seems to use the budget pretty well.

Is that a tiny hinge in the middle of the shin (just below the knee), taking the place of an ankle rocker?

 

[Sciflyer]

I think that's definitely a consideration. Those fists end up a bit too close to the knees. I have to wonder, though, if it's also a casualty of Swindle and Brawl having to be 2/3 of their vehicle mode length in combined mode, due to the need for them to wad up and form boot-fronts.

Yeah, I would also agree that Swindle and Brawl having to comprise that much mass, along with being "boots," is also a hindrance. I am still interested in seeing more pics of the combined mode (different angles, not holding a weapon, etc.). I feel like some of my own internal discord might - strong emphasis on that word - be alleviated, but I guess we'll see.

 

[Princess Viola]

sticking so hard to the cartoon models continues to be a mistake

 

[Sabrblade]

sticking so hard to the cartoon models continues to be a mistake

Just imagine how much of the proportions they'll have to alter for a Ruination retool if they want to stick to cartoon accuracy for him as well, since his cartoon models were way more slender like the toy:

 

[Exatron]

Bruticus does look a bit goofy, but I think he'll go well with the rest of the post-PWT Generations 'cons, so he'll still be joining them on my shelf next year. Definitely makes it an even easier decision to stick with UW for any potential Ruination, though. I would still love to get a Battle Gaia, from either CW or AotP.

Looking forward to getting Sideways to join my Unicron team. The main thing that jumps out at me looking at his pics is that he looks like his head is just a block with Cannonball's face painted on it.

 

[Ceir]

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Still not in on the combiners, but flipping heck Sideways looks good. I was wondering if/how they were going to get his headmasters in, and they've done it even with needing to compromise. I do kinda wish they still had the thumbnail sliders to hide the head-mode eyes, but - again, compromises. Purple looks a little darker than the original to me, but purple with gold instead of the OG yellow is classy.

 

[Blot]

sticking so hard to the cartoon models continues to be a mistake

Yeah they really messed up on Sideways making him so accurate to the cartoon.

 

[Andrusi]

I might seriously hang on to my Combiner Wars Bruticus and display the new guys in individual mode.

I might do the same, except goofily instead of seriously.

 

[unluckiness]

Seriously what happened here? All they had to do was what Superion and Menasor did but with reversed knees. Isn’t the point of the frame system a better combined mode? What exactly did the frame and bumping the legbots up a size class accomplish aside from placing the ankle tilts at the mid-shin?

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

sticking so hard to the cartoon models continues to be a mistake

And if they didn't we'd have just as many people bitching about that.

 

[LordGigaIce]

sticking so hard to the cartoon models continues to be a mistake

Agreed.
But what I find funny is that, to Hasbro's credit, they're really sticking to those models and the people who think they want cartoon accuracy suddenly realize that's not what they want when the slavish to the model toys don't reflect their inaccurate memories they've been holding onto for decades.

It's like SS '86 Megatron. Everyone lost their minds over his grey shins, forgetting that's what he looked like in the 80s animation model sheet.

When most fans say they want Sunbow accuracy they don't actually mean that. They want something accurate to the inaccurate memories they've been holding in their mind's eye since the 80s. Obviously Hasbro and Takara's designers can't read minds, they're gonna hear a desire for Sunbow accuracy and reference the model sheets.
It's just been amusing to see how many people vocal about this stuff don't actually remember what those look like.

Just imagine how much of the proportions they'll have to alter for a Ruination retool if they want to stick to cartoon accuracy for him as well, since his cartoon models were way more slender like the toy:

I donno, I think this works reasonably well.

Not my edit, someone posted it on the Discord.

 

[Shadewing]

It's like SS '86 Megatron. Everyone lost their minds over his grey shins, forgetting that's what he looked like in the 80s animation model sheet.

What I remember, isn't the grey shins; it was the fact that in 90% of pictures they looked Blue-gray. And that color not being accurate to any form of animation.

 

[LordGigaIce]

What I remember, isn't the grey shins; it was the fact that in 90% of pictures they looked Blue-gray. And that color not being accurate to any form of animation.

That was a lighting thing. They could look flat grey or blue grey depending on who took the pictures and what their lighting setup was. But they looked grey when I had him in hand at Target. The one time I found him in the wild.

But I do definitely remember people asking why his shins were grey, period.

 

[Shadewing]

That was a lighting thing. They could look flat grey or blue grey depending on who took the pictures and what their lighting setup was. But they looked grey when I had him in hand at Target. The one time I found him in the wild.

But I do definitely remember people asking why his shins were grey, period.

Yeah, a lighting thing which for awhile seemed like it was EVERY picture the colors were off, enough so that it was hard to tell which was the real color until in hand stuff started coming in. The blue being more common in most pictures put out for awhile is something I'd chalk up to a legit concern.

I don't remember people wondering about the gray being there at all, but I'm not going to doubt you on that.

 

[Superomegaprime]

Is it me or does Brawl look like he trying some yoga sitting pose as a leg?

 

[wonko the sane?]

Does anyone else picture bruticus stomping on someone, and then blowing his own head off?

 

[unluckiness]

you know this is a case where the inevitable DNA heightening parts might actually be worth it.
I think it might also help the proportions to paint the arms in blast Off and Vortex colors.