Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Rhinox]

Generals gathered in their masses.
Soon they'll kiss Trump and Petey's asses.

Honestly? I doubt that. I wouldn't expect the military to kiss the ring any time soon. The drunk is bad enough but if you think the generals will follow Commander in Bone Spurs anywhere, well . . .

 

[wonko the sane?]

They know trump is weak, panicking and useless. All they have to do to keep their jobs and outlive his regime is nothing. Because just about every coup in the world that didn't have the military backing it has failed.

Besides, would you cooperate with the guy that's cut your funding, destroyed the policies that made you the most effective military on the planet, then called you to a meeting forcing you to travel halfway around the world just to ******* insult you?

If they kiss the ring, they're in violation of their oath and complicit. When trump is out (which won't be long one way or another: his regime collapses when he dies regardless.) the coconspirators will be probably be removed by whatever administration follows.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

I have no faith that most of the generals give a damn about the Constitution. Like anybody else in power, all they care about is keeping that power. They're going to follow whoever's in charge as long as they keep their cushy jobs, and if that means getting cheeto dust on their lips I have no doubt they will do it.

I mean, aren't most of those in active military service, especially those that are in the upper ranks, Republicans?

 

[Dekafox]

I take it you ignored the note that none of them reacted in any way to Hegseth's speech? If they had intended to "Kiss the ring" someone would have started trying to kick off a round of applause.

 

[Dekafox]

Some info about the Portland mess:

The troops aren't even there yet and are already annoying the residents:

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

I take it you ignored the note that none of them reacted in any way to Hegseth's speech? If they had intended to "Kiss the ring" someone would have started trying to kick off a round of applause.

They were just following protocol for political situations - I wouldn't read too much into it.

 

[NovaSaber]

 

[Pocket]

Sounds to me like the noise is the purpose of the helicopters. They're aiming to rile up the citizens to the point where they'll try to Do Something About It, justifying retaliatory action from the military.

 

[Ironbite4]

Trump is losing it at Faux Noise. FAUX NOISE IS PISSING HIM OFF!

Trump blasts 'politically correct' Fox News as he fumes over interview with Dem

Donald Trump had a meltdown on Truth Social on Sunday afternoon after Fox News aired an interview with a Democratic senator, who discussed healthcare — a hot-button issue amid the government shutdown

www.irishstar.com

Ironbite-oh that's not gonna go down easy.

 

[wonko the sane?]

He's screamed at them before: he always comes crawling back, he needs his propaganda network and all the other right wing broadcasters are peanuts compared to fox.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

This will go down like every other time this has happened. I remember when he decided to boycott FOX because he didn't like the questions Megyn Kelly asked him in the first 2015 debate. In 2024 she was on his campaign team.

 

[Pocket]

And it goes both ways; wasn't she the one who got sacked by Fox News for not kissing his ass enough and went to work for one of the other news channels? So they kind of both came crawling back to each other. Which sums up his relationship with Fox News pretty well too.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

He'll go back as soon as his need for attention overrides his ego. Or they'll go back as soon as they remember he brings in ratings. Either way, same result.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

So a judge (that Trump himself appointed) barred Trump from sending Oregon national guard to Portland. So what does he do? He tries to send California National Guard instead. Fortunately, the same judge smacked that down as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/06/us/oregon-national-guard-trump-ruling-portland-hnk

Of course Goebbels Stephen Miller didn't care for that at all and went Full Fascist.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/05/poli...n-chicago-ice-raids-and-immigration-crackdown

Pritzger completely avoids the question of what he's going to do about the egregious acts of ICE. I'd hate for him to be a typical politician but it's certainly looking that way - lots of talk, no meaningful action.

 

[Dekafox]

Speaking of...

*edit*
Trump apparently decided to yeet Texans at it.

Greg Abbott authorizes Trump to deploy Texas National Guard to other states to protect federal officials

Shortly after the governors’ dueling posts on X Sunday night, a federal judge temporarily blocked the deployment of any state national guards to Oregon.

www.texastribune.org

Pritzker to hold update as Trump orders hundreds of Texas National Guard members to Illinois

Pritzker said Trump’s Department of War gave him what he called “an ultimatum” to either call up National Guard members or to have those members nationalized.

www.nbcchicago.com

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

When Trumpers say "we're going to take our country back", it sounds nonsensical, because white conservatives never lost control of the country in the first place. At no point did they have anything less than firm control of the country.

But it makes more sense when you understand what it actually means: they're not taking something they lost. They always had it. What they're doing is stopping the practice of sharing that thing with others.

"Taking back", in this context, is about stopping the generosity.

Imagine having a swimming pool, but your wife told the neighbours' kids they could use the pool. But this pisses you off because you don't like the neighbour's kids, so you went apeshit and screamed at the neighbour's kids and put up a barbed-wire fence and threatened to shoot them if you ever saw them using your pool again, and when your wife brought up the fact that she gave them permission, you started beating her up. And all the while, you were thinking that you're just protecting what's yours, and you never once thought you might be the asshole. That's what a Trumper is.

 

[Ironbite4]

God what's the point of a National Guard if the President just uses it for whatever he wants by "federalizing it.

Ironbite-might as well make it a part of the regular army then.

 

[Pocket]

I never understood why the state militias are called the "national" guard in the first place. It feels like it was almost designed to cause confusion.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

And a bunch of states also have a State Guard, making it even less clear what exactly the National Guard is.