Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[NovaSaber]

 

[Pocket]

Sounds to me like the noise is the purpose of the helicopters. They're aiming to rile up the citizens to the point where they'll try to Do Something About It, justifying retaliatory action from the military.

 

[Ironbite4]

Trump is losing it at Faux Noise. FAUX NOISE IS PISSING HIM OFF!

Trump blasts 'politically correct' Fox News as he fumes over interview with Dem

Donald Trump had a meltdown on Truth Social on Sunday afternoon after Fox News aired an interview with a Democratic senator, who discussed healthcare — a hot-button issue amid the government shutdown

www.irishstar.com

Ironbite-oh that's not gonna go down easy.

 

[wonko the sane?]

He's screamed at them before: he always comes crawling back, he needs his propaganda network and all the other right wing broadcasters are peanuts compared to fox.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

This will go down like every other time this has happened. I remember when he decided to boycott FOX because he didn't like the questions Megyn Kelly asked him in the first 2015 debate. In 2024 she was on his campaign team.

 

[Pocket]

And it goes both ways; wasn't she the one who got sacked by Fox News for not kissing his ass enough and went to work for one of the other news channels? So they kind of both came crawling back to each other. Which sums up his relationship with Fox News pretty well too.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

He'll go back as soon as his need for attention overrides his ego. Or they'll go back as soon as they remember he brings in ratings. Either way, same result.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

So a judge (that Trump himself appointed) barred Trump from sending Oregon national guard to Portland. So what does he do? He tries to send California National Guard instead. Fortunately, the same judge smacked that down as well.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/06/us/oregon-national-guard-trump-ruling-portland-hnk

Of course Goebbels Stephen Miller didn't care for that at all and went Full Fascist.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/05/poli...n-chicago-ice-raids-and-immigration-crackdown

Pritzger completely avoids the question of what he's going to do about the egregious acts of ICE. I'd hate for him to be a typical politician but it's certainly looking that way - lots of talk, no meaningful action.

 

[Dekafox]

Speaking of...

*edit*
Trump apparently decided to yeet Texans at it.

Greg Abbott authorizes Trump to deploy Texas National Guard to other states - The Texas Tribune

The governor posted a photo Monday showing guardsmen deploying but did not mention a destination. Trump called for troops to deploy to Illinois and Oregon, where a judge temporarily blocked their arrival.

www.texastribune.org

Pritzker to hold update as Trump orders hundreds of Texas National Guard members to Illinois

Pritzker said Trump’s Department of War gave him what he called “an ultimatum” to either call up National Guard members or to have those members nationalized.

www.nbcchicago.com

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

When Trumpers say "we're going to take our country back", it sounds nonsensical, because white conservatives never lost control of the country in the first place. At no point did they have anything less than firm control of the country.

But it makes more sense when you understand what it actually means: they're not taking something they lost. They always had it. What they're doing is stopping the practice of sharing that thing with others.

"Taking back", in this context, is about stopping the generosity.

Imagine having a swimming pool, but your wife told the neighbours' kids they could use the pool. But this pisses you off because you don't like the neighbour's kids, so you went apeshit and screamed at the neighbour's kids and put up a barbed-wire fence and threatened to shoot them if you ever saw them using your pool again, and when your wife brought up the fact that she gave them permission, you started beating her up. And all the while, you were thinking that you're just protecting what's yours, and you never once thought you might be the asshole. That's what a Trumper is.

 

[Ironbite4]

God what's the point of a National Guard if the President just uses it for whatever he wants by "federalizing it.

Ironbite-might as well make it a part of the regular army then.

 

[Pocket]

I never understood why the state militias are called the "national" guard in the first place. It feels like it was almost designed to cause confusion.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

And a bunch of states also have a State Guard, making it even less clear what exactly the National Guard is.

 

[wonko the sane?]

And that's not even counting all the unregulated militias.

 

[Dekafox]

https://archive.is/3rRpl#selection-1149.0-1170.0

Per Bloomberg, the White House is looking into trying to get the law thrown out that requires they pay workers who are furloughed during shutdowns, but the TACO truck is visible in the distance.

Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-invoking-insurrection-act-rcna236030

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

He wants to change the laws, can all those faceless poors, and blame it on the Democrats for PR points. And also claim he's saving all this money for the government (by not paying all those people he got fired, but he'll leave that part out).

 

[Dekafox]

Mayor Brandon Johnson says federal agents who break city law should be charged with crime

Johnson called for criminal charges Tuesday against federal agents who violate his new executive order banning them from using city land to carry out their deportation operations.

www.chicagotribune.com

tl;dr Mayor did his own Executive Order to make ICE setting foot on city property illegal, and says he can use that to charge ICE agents there with criminal charges. Chicago police chief says they won't "interfere" with the duties and responsibilities of federal agents, and the mayor stops short of saying the police can arrest them on said charges, saying he's "exploring options.". There is already ordinances in place that the police won't assist ICE in their operations, on the other hand, either. Just one big mess, and the Texans just arrived on top of that.

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

The Trump administration hates "critical race theory" for insisting that American racism permeates its institutions, but at the same time, they're also proving critical race theory correct, by creating racist institutions and policies.

They even created written evidence for critical race theory by securing a Supreme Court judgement declaring that it's OK to "detain" people with zero evidence of wrongdoing, based solely on their race.

This is the great irony of the Trump administration: after going to war with "critical race theory", it has created a mountain of irrefutable evidence that critical race theory is correct.

 

[Dekafox]

On the whole Oregon thing they're not letting any of the local media in, only right-wing "influencers"

Feds grant ICE building access to conservative media, influencers, ignore local Portland press

Not all news organizations have been granted the same access to the ICE facility and the people who work there.

www.oregonlive.com