Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
It'll be generations before the world trusts the US again.

But let's be frank here: it's been 50 years or more since the changes to where the only thing the US was good for was money. Nothing has really changed other than your being broke.

Morally, ethically, economically... but broke.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
I don't think the US deserves to recover, ever. I think it should collapse like Rome, and serve as a cautionary tale to the rest of the world. Because the way things are going, it's probably the only thing that'll save them from the same fate.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Your country put itself in this position, if you can pull yourself out: you deserve that as much as you deserve the fall.

hug sake: you can change. You can improve. That was never in question. The question is "will you, and will you do it in enough time to save yourselves".
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
The US was garbage to start with. Founded by religious fanatics and slave owners, built on slavery and genocide, sustained by exploiting other poorer countries. The only thing we've ever done to make the rest of the world a better place was remove ourselves from it.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
Citizen
There were good things about America, the bulk of the bill of rights for instance, but yea, our history is full of injustices. Deleting America isn't really the answer, though. I'd much rather have meaningful reforms, though I'm not sure how we'd get there from here at the moment.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
FB friend:
Trump thinks he's a genius for using the "make wildly unreasonable demands, then walk out of the room to show you're serious and frighten the other guy" technique.

That's a cartoon version of negotiation. Serious negotiators don't do this because all it does is show that you're a jackass. It doesn't frighten the other guy, because your unreasonable demands are so ridiculous that agreeing to them would be worse than whatever you're threatening them with.

Imagine going into a Chevrolet dealership and saying that you want a brand-new Corvette for $25,000. The dealer would of course say that the list price for the cheapest 2025 Corvette is $68,000, so there's no way in hell you're getting one for $25,000.

Now imagine that you respond to this by insulting him and then storming out. Would that frighten him? No, because your demand is so completely ridiculous that he cannot take you seriously.

That's what Trump keeps doing, and he thinks it's a genius negotiating strategy. And then his people try to work out more reasonable terms once he's out of the room, because everyone on both sides knows he's an idiot.
 

NovaSaber

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The chatbot’s responses typically draw from right-wing and pro-Trump news sources like Fox News and Newsmax, however, it did not support recent statements made by Trump.


On Friday, Mr Trump said that his tariff policy has had a “huge positive impact” on the stock market, but the AI tool responded, saying “the evidence does not support this claim”.

First reported by The Washington Post, Truth Search AI also called the US president’s claim that the 2020 election was stolen “baseless”.

When asked about a recent post by Mr Trump on Truth Social about crime in Washington, D.C., the AI bot responded that it is “not totally out of control”.


Users on social media also shared instances of the new AI bot claiming that Barack Obama is the most popular president of the century, and that the Trump family’s crypto projects pose a conflict of interest.
 

Anonymous X

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Watching clips on BlueSky of the police presence in Washington DC, I can’t tell if the footage is actually cut scenes from Civil War (the 2004 film directed by Alex Garland). Because it’s so similar.
 


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