Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

abates

unfortunate shark issues
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He had already attempted suicide once on July 24. They put him on suicide watch and then took him off it again only six days later after an assessment by a so far unnamed psychiatrist.

I'm not generally given to looking for conspiracy, but there are some genuine questions there.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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I mean, if you had been caught doing what Epstein had done, and it was already known by the general public, would you have any reason left to want to go on living? Even the prospect of selling out everyone else out of spite would only fend off the intrusive thoughts for so long, and all it would take is one moment of simultaneous clarity and opportunity...
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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There is a reason suicide happens a lot in jail/prison. it would not at all surprise me that Epstein did, in fact, kill himself without any prompting or real "help" from others. Really, the conspiracy for me is who let him get away with it.
Yes, it could honestly be just lazy hugging guards, but it could just as easily be something else.
 

Steevy Maximus

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That’s where most of my conspiratorial disposition comes from. I work in medicine in a monitoring role. If I know I have a patient with a high profile or who’s under “more than usual” scrutiny…I’m going to make DAMN sure to stay focused. To cover my own ass, if nothing else.

The fact he was left unattended despite just coming off a suicide watch? Sometimes the line between malicious and indifferent are pretty fine.
 

Ironbite4

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Putin's got way to much on his plate to worry what the Orange Piss Pot will be doing.

Especially since he's sending Ukraine Patriot Missiles.


Ironbite-and demanding the war ends one way or another in 50 days.
 

abates

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Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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FB friend:
It says a lot about how ignorant America has become that its people need a live demonstration before they will believe all sorts of things that should be obvious, such as:

1: It's bad to make an entire country subject to the whims of one man.
2: It's a bad idea to fire your weather forecasters.
3: Emergency preparedness is a good thing.
4: Mass vaccination is good for public health.
5: Cutting taxes for the rich won't benefit the rest of us in any way.
6: Pumping over 30 billion tons of extra CO2 into the atmosphere every year just might have an effect sooner or later.

It's going to take Joe Rogan ten more years to slowly figure out that there are potential risks in giving absolute power to a malignant narcissist, and when he does figure it out, he's going to act as if his mind was blown by a revelation that nobody saw coming.
 

Ironbite4

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Know what'll cost the Orange Piss Pot the glorious Third Term? If he guts FEMA.

Ironbite-and he will gut FEMA because Project 2025 says to gut FEMA.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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Trump is telling people he's about to fire Powell, head of the Fed Reserve.

Hold onto your money folks, this is when it gets really rough.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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No, it's not. Not by a hugging long shot. However bad you thought, or assumed, it was going to get: multiply by 300%.

It will get bad to the point where trump will be openly flirting with starting an actual war, and most of the country will think "not a bad idea: it'll kick start the economy.". It'll get bad to the point where you're going to be standing in gas lines with dudes named "immortan joe" and "the toe cutter".

And an all encompasing blue wave in the midterms? Yeah, it won't be enough to remove trump, just stop him from making things worse. It'll also be a position where no one can even BEGIN to fix jive. If you get that big a blue wave.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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He doesn't have the power to fire Powell due to the way things are set up and the fact that getting rid of him is against the moneyed interests wishes at this time.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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FB friend:
When you hear Trump's goons talking about the undesirables "self-deporting", just remember that the OG Nazis created something called the Zentralstelle für jüdische Auswanderung (Central Office of Jewish Emigration). It was run by Adolf Eichmann, and its purpose was ostensibly to help Jews voluntarily leave Germany.
Why is so much of the Trump supporter's moral self-image bound up in self-righteous outrage over sexual issues? Whether it's transgendered people in bathrooms, transgendered people in sports, Project 2025's promise to outlaw pornography, or the absurd delusion that he could somehow expose Jeffrey Epstein's friends by voting for one of Jeffrey Epstein's closest friends, the Trump supporter's moral centre of gravity is lodged firmly in the crotch.

Perhaps it's a way of distracting himself from the fact that all of his other policies are utterly amoral, to the point that Christians openly reject their own Messiah: Trump supporters have been known to berate church ministers for quoting from the Beatitudes because they're too left-wing and compassionate. When your entire worldview is based on selfishness and hate, you need to cling to something in order to convince yourself you're not a bad person.
The sad thing about Trump calling the Epstein files a made-up Democratic conspiracy is that his base might actually believe it. Why not? They believe every other insane thing he says, and it doesn't take much to get them to believe in Democratic conspiracies.

However, the hilarious thing is that if they do believe it, and they know Trump has been pushing it for years, then they would have to suspect that Trump was in on this Democratic conspiracy.
 

Cybersnark

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Gee, who could possibly have had the unrestricted access to government databases in February and March to do this?


/s
 
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