Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[abates]

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

This is one of the most demented things Trump has posted

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[Pocket]

The historical context of HItler and the German armed forces - hopefully others will find it illuminating too.

I've heard of the "Night of the Long Knives" before, but only ever described in an ominous and vague way that made it sound like it involved rounding up everyone in the government and military who opposed him or wasn't 100% on board with his rise to power and having them murdered, possibly in a single literal night. An "Order 66" moment, if you will.

Which makes me wonder, was there anyone who didn't take the oath? And what happened to them? Did they resign, or were they executed on the spot?

 

[Dekafox]

Well, it was just a speech after all. Not a good one(basically making changes to protect against abuse issues being reported, all but saying he doesn't care about war crimes, etc) but basically just another speech And for those who were worried about the temperament of our own generals:

Max Boot (@maxboot.bsky.social)

Most interesting part of the speech—a familiar MAGA tirade—was the audience reaction. Didn’t hear a single person applaud. Generals and admirals sat silently during this political lecture from a former National Guard captain. The right reaction. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

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The whole thing is available at https://www.dvidshub.net/webcast/36924 if you want to subject yourself to it.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

I think I'd rather punch myself square in the dick with brass knuckles than listen to Kegsbreath and Krasnov any more than absolutely necessary.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

I'm going to hold my tongue for the next 72 hours in case some generals get mass fired via tweet later.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

Well, no room for interpretation here. Trump intends to turn Democratic cities into military garrisons.

At one point, Trump said he suggested to Hegseth that the Defense Department use "dangerous cities" in the U.S. as "training grounds" for the military.

“I told Pete, we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military, National Guard, but military," Trump said. "Because we’re going into Chicago very soon, that’s a big city with an incompetent governor.”


Trump told the military officials of his plans to send troops into other cities, including Portland, Ore., San Francisco and New York, where he said that “America is under invasion from within.”

Trump said Portland “looks like a war zone” reminiscent of World War II.

The White House amplified Trump’s rhetoric in a press release Tuesday, saying the president was mobilizing federal resources to Portland to “stop Antifa-led hellfire in its tracks.”

“The Radical Left’s reign of terror in Portland ends now,” the White House said.

Trump wants the military to take on domestic ‘enemies’​

“We’ve brought back the fundamental principle that defending the homeland is the military’s first and most important priority. That’s what it is,” Trump said. “Only in recent decades did politicians somehow come to believe that our job is to police the far reaches of Kenya and Somalia, while America is under invasion from within.


“We’re under invasion from within,” the president continued. “No different than a foreign enemy but more difficult in many ways because they don’t wear uniforms — at least when they’re wearing a uniform, you can take them out.

"Our history is filled with military heroes who took on all enemies, foreign and domestic,” Trump added. “That's what the oath says, foreign and domestic. Well, we also have domestic.”

 

[Corvus]

I love how DUI hire Kegsbreath goes on and on about overweight soldiers and generals and how it sets a bad standard, and Trump waddles up to the podium to vomit up some low-energy inane word-salad about foes "foreign and domestic" and to complain about stairs, his expertise in not falling down them, and Obama.

Go take another drink, Pete. And buy Trump a Big Mac or two while you're at it so he can continue to be the icon of fitness a Commander in Chief should be.

And yes, Trump's statements about sending troops to other cities should absolutely raise alarm bells, but it also shouldn't be a shock to anyone who has been paying attention to anyone who understands that we are living in an authoritarian regime. This has been Trump's playbook, he simply waffles on when and where he's sending troops and jackboots depending on what day and what time it is.

 

[Ungnome]

Really makes me want to go back and time and take care of Newt Gingrich before his plan was put into action.... A lot of this garbage tracks back to the stuff he pulled back then.
The only hope left is the people rising up to stop this and like 20% of the population are actively cheering on this garbage thanks to only listening to things like Fox News and Newsmax another 30% are blissfully unaware of what's going on...

 

[Pocket]

Really makes me want to go back and time and take care of Newt Gingrich before his plan was put into action.... A lot of this garbage tracks back to the stuff he pulled back then.

So long as we've got a time machine to deal with the openly-fascist arm of the Republican Party, might as well go back to the 1940s when they started branding everyone who had traveled to Spain to aid in the Civil War as "Communists."

 

[Ungnome]

Well, my time machine can only jump to points within my lifetime and I'm old, but not quite that old, so I had to choose a point. It's broken now, anyway. Apparently trying to give your younger self winning lottery numbers causes a paradox or something.

 

[Dekafox]

At least your next leap was the leap home.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

Please work on that time machine, because I'm gonna need it when Pocket and I get elected.

As part of my process reforms, the Senate will be run by my time-displaced Kindergarten teacher, and these idiots will learn how to conduct a vote in one minute instead of three days.

 

[Pocket]

Imagine running for office on a platform of "I have a time machine and I know how to use it."

There's more than a few really good sci-fi stories in there.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

Generals gathered in their masses.
Soon they'll kiss Trump and Petey's asses.

 

[Rhinox]

Generals gathered in their masses.
Soon they'll kiss Trump and Petey's asses.

Honestly? I doubt that. I wouldn't expect the military to kiss the ring any time soon. The drunk is bad enough but if you think the generals will follow Commander in Bone Spurs anywhere, well . . .

 

[wonko the sane?]

They know trump is weak, panicking and useless. All they have to do to keep their jobs and outlive his regime is nothing. Because just about every coup in the world that didn't have the military backing it has failed.

Besides, would you cooperate with the guy that's cut your funding, destroyed the policies that made you the most effective military on the planet, then called you to a meeting forcing you to travel halfway around the world just to ******* insult you?

If they kiss the ring, they're in violation of their oath and complicit. When trump is out (which won't be long one way or another: his regime collapses when he dies regardless.) the coconspirators will be probably be removed by whatever administration follows.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

I have no faith that most of the generals give a damn about the Constitution. Like anybody else in power, all they care about is keeping that power. They're going to follow whoever's in charge as long as they keep their cushy jobs, and if that means getting cheeto dust on their lips I have no doubt they will do it.

I mean, aren't most of those in active military service, especially those that are in the upper ranks, Republicans?

 

[Dekafox]

I take it you ignored the note that none of them reacted in any way to Hegseth's speech? If they had intended to "Kiss the ring" someone would have started trying to kick off a round of applause.

 

[Dekafox]

Some info about the Portland mess:

The troops aren't even there yet and are already annoying the residents:

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

I take it you ignored the note that none of them reacted in any way to Hegseth's speech? If they had intended to "Kiss the ring" someone would have started trying to kick off a round of applause.

They were just following protocol for political situations - I wouldn't read too much into it.