What stupid thing did the GOP say or do this time? Episode 3!

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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It's true that conservatives seem to play politics like chess while liberals play checkers: they have all sorts of Machiavellian strategies in play, some of whose groundwork is so complex and far-reaching that the foundations were laid decades ago. For example, look at Liberty University: an entire university created for the purpose of graduating ideologically pure conservative professionals to infiltrate key sectors of society such as the judicial system.

But while this is a definite strength for conservatives (their legal strategy has resulted in the near-total domination of the Supreme Court), it is also a weakness in some ways. Lying comes to conservative politicians as easily as breathing, and why wouldn't it? For a self-styled Machiavellian strategist, words and promises are not honest expressions of the self, nor are they a sacred bond: instead, they are merely tools, to be strategically deployed or discarded as necessary to achieve one's goals.

Machiavelli himself wrote in "The Prince" that "princes who do great things pay little account to their promises", so if you fancy yourself a Machiavellian genius, your promises clearly mean very little. Sun Tzu wrote that "all warfare is deception", so when conservative political operators treat politics as a kind of warfare rather than a sportsmanlike competition, honesty goes out the window. Lies become a perfectly legitimate strategy.

Hence, we have hundreds of fake right-wing "patriot" social media accounts which are actually run out of paid "troll farms" overseas, etc. We have a president who is so accustomed to lying that he lies constantly about his own well-documented public actions and statements, and then tries to blackmail the media to go along with it. His policies themselves can be based on lies: one of his strategies to deal with rising Covid infection numbers in 2020 was to encourage public health agencies to lie to the public, and downplay the numbers by simply not testing people anymore. And these tactics can be disturbingly effective: for example, most Republican voters today blame Biden for the 2020 pandemic response, even though Biden did not take office until January 2021.

But habitual lying does have a cost. People eventually learn what a snake you are, and snakes attract other snakes. An organization rife with liars will be filled with traitors, back-stabbers, schemers, and grifters. You cannot trust anyone: your closest advisors may be plotting against you. Any person of integrity will have abandoned your cause a long time ago. You can't get good information, because your entire organization is made up of people who think lies are just a useful and necessary tool for smart strategists. Eventually, you may find yourself so buried in your own mountain of lies that you suffocate.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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Won't pas thankfully. Good thing too since many people have dual citizenship without realizing it simply due to how citizenship works in other countries.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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NovaSaber

Well-known member
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Memes do come true:

As a conservative, I’m beginning to wonder: Are we the bad guys?​


You know what this means. It means it’s too late. Telling conservatives to stop being bigots is admitting they’re bigots. And I’m pretty sure a professor of jurisprudence telling them to cut it out isn’t going to work. Hey, you guys — stop being bigots! Oh, okay.

I served in the Reagan and George W. Bush administrations and would like to believe conservatism wasn’t always thus, but I’m beginning to wonder. Was the virus from which today’s bigotry sprang lying dormant in us back then, like chickenpox leading to shingles? The moral herpes virus? Was it like a recessive gene long buried in our ancestral DNA that suddenly got switched on and has become dominant?
 

KidTDragon

Now with hi-res avatar!
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Jesus F***ing Christ, these people are broken beyond repair.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
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I would say this is just posturing…but who the hell knows anymore.

I WANT to say that even THIS administration isn’t dumb enough to jeopardize practically every major political connection in Europe for Greenland…but who the hell knows anymore.

I do know that if any sort of military action is taken on Greenland that isn’t authorized by all sides? The dumb sons of bitches might actually be risking a damned war.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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Well, that's one way to dissolve NATO....... Guy is a menace and really needs to be stopped before he plunges the world in to WWIII.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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There won't be world war 3. Russia will not fight for china, china will not fight for russia, and nato is still an imposing military force without the US.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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It doesn't have to involve all the world powers to be considered a world war. Just the US vs. the EU would be enough, and Trump is the sort who would push the big red button the second they declare they're fighting back.

Also anyone else notice that one of the stars is grayed out in that picture? Should I be reading any significance into that?
 

CoffeeHorse

Hanging in there
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Trump told reporters again last night that he's serious about Greenland. At this point the world can't assume he's joking.
 


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