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Donocropolis

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I wish the PotP line hadn't been so truncated, as it would have been neat to see a couple of other characters get the Leader Evolution treatment (Arcee and Megatron would be two I'd be most interested in seeing)

Hound was one of our votey choices, and I was super interested in seeing what they had in mind for him. I was guessing the evolved form would resemble Bayverse Hound / Animated Bulkhead.
 

TheSupernova

How did we get so dark?
Citizen
I recall voting for (what we hoped to be, but wasn't confirmed to be) Deathsaurus.

I'm trying to recall if the vote happened before, or after, CW Liokaiser came out.
 

Sabrblade

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I so wanted to see Hound as a Prime...the vote went in the most obvious and boring direction.
To be fair, the voting came before we knew what the Leader Class gimmick was going to be. Had we known at the time, I feel like more would have voted for those with actual super modes instead.

I'm trying to recall if the vote happened before, or after, CW Liokaiser came out.
It was after. Liokaiser released in 2016, the POTP fan vote was in 2017.
 

Donocropolis

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Somewhere, there have to be rough sketches of the preliminary plans for these. I can't imagine that they created the choices for the votes without at least SOME idea of where they were going. I'd love to see these revealed someday in a behind-the-scenes sort of deal. Don't know if Mark or Bmac has access to those sorts of things or not.
 

Princess Viola

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I still wanna know who Unknown Evil was supposed to be
 

Sabrblade

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Somewhere someone mentioned that a possible Prime name that Hasbro was considering for Arcee had she won the fan vote was "Arcana Magnus", which sounds more like an alternate name for Brainstorm's Nebulan Headmaster partner than a Matrix-evolved Arcee.
 

Blot

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To be fair, the voting came before we knew what the Leader Class gimmick was going to be. Had we known at the time, I feel like more would have voted for those with actual super modes instead.
Hard to say if "this gimmick makes sense for this character" would have been any better of a reason to vote than "this character isn't G1, I want to see G1 lose".
 

Sabrblade

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Hard to say if "this gimmick makes sense for this character" would have been any better of a reason to vote than "this character isn't G1, I want to see G1 lose".
I recall a lot of people who voted for Optimus Primal saying, in hindsight, that they wouldn't have voted for him had they known about the Evolution gimmick beforehand, after seeing the less than stellar Optimal Optimus toy that resulted from his winning the fan vote.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
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I recall a lot of people who voted for Optimus Primal saying, in hindsight, that they wouldn't have voted for him had they known about the Evolution gimmick beforehand, after seeing the less than stellar Optimal Optimus toy that resulted from his winning the fan vote.
Thing is as soon as I heard what the PotP Leader class gimmick was, I knew that's what they'd do for Primal. It just makes sense. I mean... I know it's technically Optimus Prime's spark he's carrying in BW, but it looks a hell of a lot like the Matrix and in my mind the Optimal Optimus body is what Primal would have had if he'd gotten a proper "Prime" upgrade anyway so... I really wasn't sure what people were expecting.

Honestly? I have the toy. It's the Optimus Primal in my collection and I kinda love it.
 

Swerve

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But we did always know that the winner would become a prime and I personally wanted to see someone you would not expect (Hound, Arcee) instead of Primal who in many ways was a prime or something like it.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
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Being able to turn into all four of Optimal Optimus's original modes would have been nice, since being a quad-changer was Optimal Optimus's whole thing.

Oh, and having a torso stable enough to not come apart at the slightest action while actually playing with the toy would have also been nice.

And I know I'm being picky with this one, but... the chest cockpit being the correct color of orange would have looked so much better (the gray cockpit really only looks good for the Throne of the Primes redeco version).

I actually tried to correct the last one, myself, by getting the official decal sheet from Ocean that had stickers to change the cockpit to orange, but when I tried to apply those stickers to the figure, they disintegrated in my fingers upon peeling them off the sheet.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
A small Optimus Primal that had a properly painted face and didn't turn into a giant slab.
The draw of the figure was Optimal Optimus 🤷🏻‍♂️ To me the Optimus Primal figure gave the figure a surfboard as an homage to TM Primal, and he's a pretty ok "Cybertronian" mode Primal. I donno. I don't get the hate.
We ended up with a proper update of Optimus Primal for Kingdom anyway.

Being able to turn into all four of Optimal Optimus's original modes would have been nice, since being a quad-changer was Optimal Optimus's whole thing.
To me the importance of the Optimal Optimus form isn't that he's a quad changer, it's that it's Primal's form when his spark is merged with a Prime's. Which, incidentally, made it the perfect form to focus on for a PotP figure meant to depict Primal as a Prime.

Oh, and having a torso stable enough to not come apart at the slightest action while actually playing with the toy would have also been nice.
Maybe I got lucky with tolerances but mine is pretty solid.

And I know I'm being picky with this one, but... the chest cockpit being the correct color of orange would have looked so much better (the gray cockpit really only looks good for the Throne of the Primes redeco version).
It's in the eye of the beholder. So it's all good. Personally the cockpit colour isn't anywhere near a deal breaker.

Look.
None of these complaints are invalid. They just don't bother me.

My take on it? Optimus Primal takes in the spark of a Prime that looks a lot like the Matrix and becomes Optimal Optimus so it made all the sense in the world to focus a toy on the Optimal design for him as "the next Prime."

So when it wasn't what people expected it's just like... this was the obvious direction. Like... maybe a smaller Primal in gorilla form that wears a bigger gorilla that is the Optimal body as armour... maybe?
I'm just fine with what we got though.

The whole Primal vote just seemed steeped in fandom negativity though so...
 


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