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Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
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for the turbo nerds who care, at least one person on twitter is mad over ruckus's deco because the deco on his arms are based on the photo from the tfwiki where someone put the stickers that were meant to be on the g1 toy's waist on the arms instead

lmao

i sure do hope hasbro fired whoever was responsible for the deco out of a cannon, this transgression CANNOT stand
To be fair, but the new toy's waist is too small for that detail to begin with.

But double lol for Locoman's quick image replace on the wiki :p
Believe in yourself like Hasbro believes in TFWiki.
Another one for the Circular Reporting article, unfortunately.

Though, in the wiki's defense, the pics used were originally taken from Seibertron. We're all shaking our heads in frustration over the user who used those images.
I don't think I'll ever cease to be amused over the Circular Reporting type mistakes. Though you really would think something like a toy deco would have enough time for more research (as opposed to say a comic book colorist rushing to figure out how to color Relatively Obscure Character #28).

I really like that Ruckus.
Sixo to the rescue!

 

Princess Viola

Dumbass Asexual
Citizen
Honestly that whole statement about how 'People do know the whole deal with TFWiki is everyone can edit it, right?' makes me think that maybe some people think TFWiki is like Wikipedia where it claims to be a place that 'anyone can edit' but, in reality, once you move beyond the most basic levels of editing (fixing typos and broken links, removing obvious spam/vandalism), you discover that a great many articles are effectively controlled by a single editor or a clique of editors who regard these articles as their own fiefdom to with as they please (namely promoting their own specific POV in regards to the article's topic) and that's why a people don't go and fix errors on the wiki when they're brought up.

And then others just find editing a wiki completely daunting so they don't do it.
 

Tuxedo Prime

Well-known member
Citizen
Sixo: Anyone can edit TFWiki!

Me, after the n'th auto-reversion of material I submitted:
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Xaaron

Active member
Citizen
Yeah...after a good decade of work on TFWiki, I gave up trying to contribute anymore because of people exactly like Viola is describing. Well, one person. Basically, I didn't join the Discord, and lost track of who was able and willing to override Saix.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
The retail version is the Pretender-focused version
Yeah, I'm really not sure where his complaint is, in that we already got Tarn, Cyberverse Perfect Decpecticons, and IDW Bludgeon (in his popular colors and popular face design). And anything "closer" to his original Pretender desgin would require a new mold, which would be beyond the budget for this sort of release.

If anything, the new headsculpt indicates this was NOT a "dialed in" redeco, but something that someone on Hasbro wanted to make. Between Bludgeon, Fractured Friends Orion Pax and (to a degree) Megatron shows somebody has read Stormbringer recently and we're getting some toys from that inspiration.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
If anything, the new headsculpt indicates this was NOT a "dialed in" redeco, but something that someone on Hasbro wanted to make. Between Bludgeon, Fractured Friends Orion Pax and (to a degree) Megatron shows somebody has read Stormbringer recently and we're getting some toys from that inspiration.
After all these years, Classics Jetfire will no longer feel so alone.
 

Shadewing

Well-known member
Citizen
Yeah, I'm really not sure where his complaint is, in that we already got Tarn, Cyberverse Perfect Decpecticons, and IDW Bludgeon (in his popular colors and popular face design). And anything "closer" to his original Pretender desgin would require a new mold, which would be beyond the budget for this sort of release.

If anything, the new headsculpt indicates this was NOT a "dialed in" redeco, but something that someone on Hasbro wanted to make. Between Bludgeon, Fractured Friends Orion Pax and (to a degree) Megatron shows somebody has read Stormbringer recently and we're getting some toys from that inspiration.

I thought it was obvivious. He wants a version colored specifically like the Prtender Shell, and not some mix.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
I thought it was obvivious. He wants a version colored specifically like the Prtender Shell, and not some mix.
I figured it being a reused mold at all, instead of a new mold, was what he was calling lazy, not understanding at all that it was always going to be the same mold as before and never a new mold.
 

Andrusi

Lun!
Citizen
Chris McFeely pointed out that the new Ruckus doesn't actually match the photo that was on TFWiki--in comparison to the TFWiki/Seibertron photo, both the deco on the arms and the sculpted shock absorbers on the knees (which are also based on a sticker on the original toy) are "upside down."
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
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LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
Do you have an example?
Fun fact. If you look at early (wave one, two) Beast Wars packaging the Predacon insignia is gold/yellow. Not purple or purplish blue.
And this carries into the show. Scorpinok and Blackarachnia have gold Predacon insignias. And when Rattrap "changes" factions to go undercover his faction emblem goes from a red Maximal symbol to a yellow/gold Predacon emblem. Between multiple characters sporting it (ie not being able to written off as a character specific colour variation like Rhinox's green Maximal symbol or Waspinator's green Pred symbol) and being used on packaging I thought it would be appropriate to add a gold Predacon emblem to the insignias page.

I did nothing else. Didn't replace the blueish-purple version, just added a gold/yellow Predacon insignia variant.

Someone reverted it immediately and chastised me on the Discord over "unnecessary" additions.

I had multiple cases of in-universe usage, on package usage, to back up my assertion that this gold/yellow Predacon symbol was, at least at one point early in BW's run, the "default" Predacon emblem.

And I was taken to task because such an addition was deemed unnecessary.

I'm a fan who 1) cares enough to seek out the wiki, 2) cares enough to read it, 3) cares enough to learn how to properly edit a wiki, and 4) cares enough to contribute here and there if I see something missing.
And yet I more or less got told to get bent.

Why should I continue to stick around and try to contribute if that's how my efforts are going to be met?

I figured it being a reused mold at all, instead of a new mold, was what he was calling lazy, not understanding at all that it was always going to be the same mold as before and never a new mold.
It's PrimaxConvoy. I just assume his demands are always kind of nuts.
Hasbro and TT aren't perfect companies but this guy rags on every small thing.

Retail Bludgeon clearly was a pretender shell first deco. So him being upset that this isn't that... is just more of the same nonsense
 
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Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Fun fact. If you look at early (wave one, two) Beast Wars packaging the Predacon insignia is gold/yellow. Not purple or purplish blue.
And this carries into the show. Scorpinok and Blackarachnia have gold Predacon insignias. And when Rattrap "changes" factions to go undercover his faction emblem goes from a red Maximal symbol to a yellow/gold Predacon emblem. Between multiple characters sporting it (ie not being able to written off as a character specific colour variation like Rhinox's green Maximal symbol or Waspinator's green Pred symbol) and being used on packaging I thought it would be appropriate to add a gold Predacon emblem to the insignias page.

I did nothing else. Didn't replace the blueish-purple version, just added a gold/yellow Predacon insignia variant.

Someone reverted it immediately and chastised me on the Discord over "unnecessary" additions.

I had multiple cases of in-universe usage, on package usage, to back up my assertion that this gold/yellow Predacon symbol was, at least at one point early in BW's run, the "default" Predacon emblem.

And I was taken to task because such an addition was deemed unnecessary.

I'm a fan who 1) cares enough to seek out the wiki, 2) cares enough to read it, 3) cares enough to learn how to properly edit a wiki, and 4) cares enough to contribute here and there if I see something missing.
And yet I more or less got told to get bent.

Why should I continue to stick around and try to contribute if that's how my efforts are going to be met?


It's PrimaxConvoy. I just assume his demands are always kind of nuts.
Hasbro and TT aren't perfect companies but this guy rags on every small thing.

Retail Bludgeon clearly was a pretender shell first deco. So him being upset that this isn't that... is just more of the same nonsense
Looking back over at that conversation on Discord, someone else on there (Tigerpaw28) agreed with you and thought it was a good idea. But then the conversation switched to other topics as is typical for Discord channels where everything is discussed all at once (as opposed to forums allowing for multiple topics to have their own individual threads). Sometimes, you gotta fight for what you believe in.
 

Princess Viola

Dumbass Asexual
Citizen
. . . . wow.
Like, if this is a serious statement, please rethink your life. It's a goddamn deco, not something worth ending a career over.

New Ruckus looks good. Not that interested in that particular Bludgeon, but I like the new chest.
It's a Simpsons reference mate

Criminy, does no one on the Internet understand what jokes are anymore. Like I'm autistic and even I can sometimes understand humor (despite what some people say)
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
It's a Simpsons reference mate

Criminy, does no one on the Internet understand what jokes are anymore. Like I'm autistic and even I can sometimes understand humor (despite what some people say)
Seriously. Some people need to pull the stick outta you know where.

Looking back over at that conversation on Discord, someone else on there (Tigerpaw28) agreed with you and thought it was a good idea. But then the conversation switched to other topics as is typical for Discord channels where everything is discussed all at once (as opposed to forums allowing for multiple topics to have their own individual threads). Sometimes, you gotta fight for what you believe in.
🤷🏻‍♂️ the way I see it, it was a super easy thing to do. Just change the hue on the standard Predacon emblem image, toss it in there, provide some context for why...

If whoever deems that page their "domain" wants to be that way that's their prerogative.

Needless to say it's not an issue I'm looking to push, but I do think it's a story to demonstrate how actual community involvement in the wiki can be stifled.
 


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