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PrimalxConvoy

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My fear is it'll leapfrog Commander class and be a Titan.
If they release PM OP as a titan-class then they might as well just release the MPM version instead.
 
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LordGigaIce

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With a bit of remolding, the Star Convoy version of the toy could have been a really good PM Prime.

Hopefully once they get through the combiner torsos, we can get a good Commander Class Powermaster Prime. That's one of the few "big wants" that I have left.
That art of the Thirteen in statue form gives Star Convoy a very Powermaster Prime chest. Wouldn't shock me if there's a retool built into the design
 

Donocropolis

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That art of the Thirteen in statue form gives Star Convoy a very Powermaster Prime chest. Wouldn't shock me if there's a retool built into the design

I actually hope not. I wouldn't want Powermaster Prime to be THAT big. Star Convoy is supposed to be huge, so that doesn't bother me, but I'd want PM Prime to be more like Kingdom Ultra Magnus. Voyagerish sized "standard" Optimus that can combine with his trailer into a super mode. Possibly with an additional God Bomber to upgrade into super-duper mode.

I know technically PM Prime had a "base mode," but it was a base for ants/micromasters.
 

Princess Viola

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if it's not based on the masterforce anime i have literally zero interest in anything else.

toy-based design? nope, i already have the reissue of the original toy.

marvel comics pmop design? i'd rather crush myself with a rock.
 

Steevy Maximus

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That art of the Thirteen in statue form gives Star Convoy a very Powermaster Prime chest. Wouldn't shock me if there's a retool built into the design
Commander or Titan, as long as it's a Hasbro initiated project I expect it to appeal to me a lot more than the lanky Masterpiece.
From what I see of the old design, the intent seemed to be a deluxe-ish Optimus Prime that fit into the chest (Looks a bit too big to fit a core-ish sized figure like Hot Rod). I haven't seen enough of the design to extrapolate where the "front cab" goes in robot mode. I kind of wonder if the "chest cockpit" could be seen as a vestigial link to the original Optimus dock (besides the obvious throwback to the original toy).


My opinion is that, if we get Powermaster Prime at retail, they'll skew towards Commander, if not Titan, just for the complexity. I'm not sure I'd buy them doing a major overhaul on a Titan figure, even with the "scaled back" offering Star convoy is. I get the feeling that, the design "gulf" between Star Convoy and Powermaster Prime (as the final toy has gone) is too far, and the brand doesn't have the "brand power" at the moment to justify a major reworking of a Titan. To this point, most Titans are "one and done", or simple redecos. Black Zarak is the exception...but he seemed to stick around for quite a while.
 

lastmaximal

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I'd welcome a Commander class PMOP. Motormaster/Armada OP are two takes on a cab that combines with the trailer for a super robot mode, and this can be a third. Nucleon Quest Super Ginrai for Selects or something?

Then do a standalone Leader class Godbomber, just a straight up Big Weaponizer Boi. That partsformering bot type has been normalized by now, and may suit his design better and give it more play value and redeco/retool potential by itself.

Can later then do a Titan class Fire Guts God Ginrai that packs them all together.
 

Exatron

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In theory, I'd be happy either way. Either do a Commander PMOP and Leader Apex Bomber, or just do a Titan combo pack. Or HasLab even, though I really think that shouldn't be necessary in this case. I think any of them has the possibility of getting us a really good figure. In theory...

In practice, we saw how Legends God Bomber turned out at the Leader price point. I would hope they could do a lot better now. But if we ultimately get a video from the design team talking about how they had to go to the Titan class or even a HasLab to make sure the full package is stable and cohesive, I won't be second guessing them.

Also, as much as I want to lean toward the Commander + Leader idea, I would point out that there are a TON of characters that I'd love to see done as Commanders. All the combiner torsos. PMOP. Optimal Optimus (and ideally a TM2 Megatron redo to match). BW2 Galvatron. Gigatron. Dai Atlas. Some of the Animated Decepticons. Maybe Thunderwing. Maybe Broadside. I'm sure I could come up with quite a few more with a bit of thought.

In contrast, I have a much harder time coming up with bots that would be a good fit as Titans, especially at the new size. God Ginrai and Omega Supreme to match SS86 Devastator are the main ones that jump to mind. Maybe a Big Powered combo pack. I'm having a hard time coming up with others that wouldn't be disappointingly small at the new size, or way too big at even the smaller Titan size. Given that we get both one Titan and one Commander each year, that factor makes me lean toward the Titan option just for assortment considerations.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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I actually hope not. I wouldn't want Powermaster Prime to be THAT big. Star Convoy is supposed to be huge, so that doesn't bother me, but I'd want PM Prime to be more like Kingdom Ultra Magnus. Voyagerish sized "standard" Optimus that can combine with his trailer into a super mode. Possibly with an additional God Bomber to upgrade into super-duper mode.

I know technically PM Prime had a "base mode," but it was a base for ants/micromasters.
Goldbug fit the ramps and in his trailer pretty well, as did the other Throttlebots.

Gun turrets were only for Powermaster partners, though.

My complaint with the base is that it left OP himself completely unarmed... unless you didn't mind a lopsided base.
 

lastmaximal

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In contrast, I have a much harder time coming up with bots that would be a good fit as Titans, especially at the new size. God Ginrai and Omega Supreme to match SS86 Devastator are the main ones that jump to mind. Maybe a Big Powered combo pack. I'm having a hard time coming up with others that wouldn't be disappointingly small at the new size, or way too big at even the smaller Titan size. Given that we get both one Titan and one Commander each year, that factor makes me lean toward the Titan option just for assortment considerations.

Tbh that sounds like a good argument for skipping a Titan for a year or two and producing two Commanders or something instead.
 

Sabrblade

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Tbh that sounds like a good argument for skipping a Titan for a year or two and producing two Commanders or something instead.
For a time, there was a rumor that made it sound like that was going to be the case.

But it turned out to just mean that Studio Series 86 would be receiving its own Commander class toys in addition to the main line, giving us two mass-retail Commanders per year now, on top of the main-line Titan.
 

Gizmoboy

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I just snagged the reissue of Devcon from Target.com today. They are saying it will be a July release on the pre-order.
 

Onyx

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Glad people are getting another chance to snag themselves and Nova Prime. Just got my DNA upgrade kit and it looks AMAZING! Probably going to be the centerpiece of my Prime shelf. Hope we get a Nemesis Prime repaint of this mold.
 

Noip

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I just snagged the reissue of Devcon from Target.com today. They are saying it will be a July release on the pre-order.

Thank you. I've had that preodered forever from Entertainment Earth or someplace and I've been expecting them to cancel the preorder.
 

Haywire

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I just snagged the reissue of Devcon from Target.com today. They are saying it will be a July release on the pre-order.
Bumping this to confirm; just found 2 Devcons at my local Target on the shelf. Pretty sure they weren't online order returns. Picked one up and it rang up just fine. So, if you're still hunting Devcon, you might hit up your local Target!
 

ZacWilliam1

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Bumping this to confirm; just found 2 Devcons at my local Target on the shelf. Pretty sure they weren't online order returns. Picked one up and it rang up just fine. So, if you're still hunting Devcon, you might hit up your local Target!
Yeah Target has a rerelease of it right now.

-ZacWilliam, all the Targets near me are mostly empty for the reset except a few Cyberworld and a few Devcons.
 

Shadewing

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Bumping this to confirm; just found 2 Devcons at my local Target on the shelf. Pretty sure they weren't online order returns. Picked one up and it rang up just fine. So, if you're still hunting Devcon, you might hit up your local Target!

I got one this weekend. BBTS has had him up for preorder, but he's not listed till like oct.
 


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