Transformers: Cyberworld, Mirage's Eleven

[lastmaximal]

Hey, every Dinobot is someone's favorite Dinobot, and sometimes people just want what they grew up with.

(Actual logic of fans fighting against the displacement/renaming at the time. I'm not saying I agree, although I do still call my own copy Slag instead of Slug -- while totally getting why a multinational corporation and brand wouldn't chance it -- and don't see him as some Cybertronian floozy. What an image)

 

[Sabrblade]

Hey, every Dinobot is someone's favorite Dinobot, and sometimes people just want what they grew up with.

(Actual logic of fans fighting against the displacement/renaming at the time. I'm not saying I agree, although I do still call my own copy Slag instead of Slug -- while totally getting why a multinational corporation and brand wouldn't chance it -- and don't see him as some Cybertronian floozy. What an image)

Heh, and as far as Takara is concerned, there is no difference between how "Slag" and "Slug" are either spelled or pronounced in Japanese. They're both the same: スラッグ (Suraggu).

 

[Undead Scottsman]

And, really, would the British be the ones to bring back the word that they themselves fought to get Hasbro to get rid of?

Did anyone in England actually complain or was Hasbro just trying avoid a situation where someone might complain?

Could easily be a situation where british people just roll their eyes at it, knowing full well the difference between the noun and slur.

Like, there's a whole host of words that double as slurs in american english that doesn't stop them from being used here because people can tell the context.

 

[lastmaximal]

I suspect it might be a bit of both, but much more heavily weighted on the latter. Busybodies people are always complaining about something in little pockets of community, and Hasbro probably started more seriously considering even these minimal potential trouble spots, more proactively taking steps to avoid them. Didn't stop something like PCC Spastic/Over-Run from getting to the printing stage, but that was also early days and things have been more consistent since. (The latter example seems more of an issue that needs correcting, and there have been some less convincing choices since like the Slave I, but on the whole I'm fine renaming my own stuff from what the box says. My shelves are not the wiki.)

 

[Sabrblade]

Both the Beast Wars and Animated cartoons were censored in their UK broadcasts to remove uses of the word "slag" as a swear. That's why "scrap" was invented as a replacement swear beginning with the Prime cartoon.

 

[Undead Scottsman]

Mainframe is Canadian, animated was scripted in the US.

 

[Undead Scottsman]

So I was curious about this and even after manipulating the speed and trying noise reduction, it still sounds like slag. I think you can even just barely hear the the start of the S sound before the electrical noise hits.

 

[Undead Scottsman]

Thank you for this conversation, by the way. It got me off my ass to play around with some software I haven't really touched in awhile, if ever, and I learned a thing or too. Anyway, here's the clip, the clip with the music removed, and the clip with the music removed and noise reduction added (and a little amplification at the key moment), and then all three at half speed.

I definitely do not hear "rag" but you could probably convince me he's saying "flag" There's definitely an L in there though.

The autocaptions think it's either "frag" or "flag"

But it also thinks a slowed down version of "you gotta stay cool" is "you gotta come home with me" so I don't know about you, but I'm havin' a ball!

EDIT: First time I've loaded windows in a couple weeks (audacity plugin wasn't available on linux) and first video I've uploaded to youtube since May 2013

EDIT2: Actually now I can hear it as "Frag" while listening on my TV instead of headphones on my computer, but it's ambiguous enough that someone should just message Ali Lightfoot on twitter at this point.

 

[lastmaximal]

I am genuinely not hearing an L in there anywhere. One of the earlier slowed-down version actually makes it clearer that the voice disappears between words (to make the r sound), where the SL consonant cluster would have to be more prominent. I'm thinking that the "L" heard is likely that sharp crackle of the zapping sound. The even slower versions distort the sound so everything sounds like it's coming from Mirage, rag and shhrkkkk and all.

All that's on the phone with the crappy speakers (I'll try this clip again on a headset later).

But I'm just repeating myself, I'll let others weigh in on this.