I like the concept of a group of demigod Transformers. I just think the group could be pared down a little.
I did see an awful lot of comments immediately about how awful the Thirteen are as a concept, how they have no interest in them, didn't want toys of them, etc. Admittedly, not necessarily quite as negative as the fandom is known for, but certainly a good amount of it.
It's been entertaining watching all the comments since then about still not liking the Thirteen, but having to admit that these toys are actually pretty damn good.
*raises hand*
That was me. I still hate the Thirteen as a concept and don't care to have a collection of them... but AOTP is testing my resolve. The execution has been brilliant.
Ideally, you name the group after a smaller number at conception.How do you pare down a group called "The Thirteen" so that they're still "The Thirteen"?
Make Nexus Prime count as 5?How do you pare down a group called "The Thirteen" so that they're still "The Thirteen"?
Not call them a number?How do you pare down a group called "The Thirteen" so that they're still "The Thirteen"?
I think that’s why overall response hasn’t been as…divisive…as new line directions typically garner. The toys were generally well done as “on their own”, but added to the lore if you wanted them to. And as remarked by others, most of the 13 come from prior sources so there isn’t as much an “onus” to fans to use them a particular way.Me as well. I don't hate or even really strongly dislike the concept of the 13, it's just not something I'm into. That said, the toys have been great, so I've bought most of them so far. Luckily, even if you don't care at all about the pantheon of demigods aspect of them, most of them have something else to their story (Alchemist Prime, for example, I'm just using as Maccadam) or are easy to repurpose.
My headcannon is that “The Thirteenth” is a “bestowed” title. Either by popular vote, notable actions, or by selection by the Primes (or some combination thereof), the 13th Prime is basically a “generational” selection intended to prevent the others from getting too disconnected from Cybertron as a whole.I'm indifferent tho the Thirteen unless they have some individual character. Most of them are total cyphers aside from their One Big Important Thing.
I also disagree with Optimus being one of them, but I wasn't gonna buy a Titan Star Convoy anyway.
So, what ROTF did in calling them the Seven Primes instead.Ideally, you name the group after a smaller number at conception.
Behold, the "Covenant"!Not call them a number?
I mean, you could have a smaller group and call them ”The CoreSpark”, “Knights of Cybertron”, “Guardians of Primus”.
and then never appeared again after that, fading into the realms of forgotten myth, leaving their whole 2-year ordeal feelingepic, cosmic, and (arguably the most important for a group like this) legendary.
Because their story was done and told, and then he recycled their concept into the Thirteen just a few years later, which Hasbro then took and ran with hoping to make them mainstream, leaving the Covenant out in the cold.I think the word your looking for is "Forgotten and obscure." Seeing as how even their Creator, the God of "rehashing his own ideas into infinity" never bothers to use them again either.
Do you even internet, bro?As a general thought: if your hobby is making you mad; you're doing it wrong. It's supposed to be an entertaining, enjoyable release from other stressors, not a new stressor.
Not properly, and frankly worth it once my ulcer healed.Do you even internet, bro?
No! I'm almost enjoying my anger.As a general thought: if your hobby is making you mad; you're doing it wrong. It's supposed to be an entertaining, enjoyable release from other stressors, not a new stressor.
My hobby didn't make me mad....As a general thought: if your hobby is making you mad; you're doing it wrong. It's supposed to be an entertaining, enjoyable release from other stressors, not a new stressor.