Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Ironbite4

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The humidity might. DC in the summer time is MISERABLE! due to the Potomac right next door. Add in the fact that there's supposed to be evening thunderstorms rolling through the fighters might get KOed by the heat.

Ironbite-but hey, Baby Needs His Bottle right?
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
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Perfect opportunity for him to get hit by lightning. The only downside is they'll never get the smell of burning jive out of the lawn.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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FB friend:
If you want to understand Trumpers, you have to view them not as an ideology, or even a political movement, but rather, as a street gang.

They pretend to care about ideas, but the only thing they really care about is group loyalty, just like a street gang. They have a particular appeal to disaffected young men, like a street gang. They are lawless, like a street gang. Members can demonstrate their allegiance by hating and attacking outsiders, like a street gang.

At the end of the day, you cannot argue someone out of being a Trumper, because none of the reasons he gives for being a Trumper are real. The real reason is simply that he feels valued by the gang, and he does not feel valued outside of it.

Maybe he's a racist, maybe he's a sexist, maybe he's poorly educated, maybe he's an obnoxious asshole, maybe he's just a failure in life: whatever the reason, he knows society looks askew at him, but the street gang doesn't. The street gang values his presence and gives him a new identity.
 

Axaday

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Does the White House have the ability to yank all the social media memes about how Obama gave pallets of money to Iran? Trump has announced that the deal is done and Iran actually says they have a deal too. It is supposed to be signed in Switzerland this Friday. The details available so far are open Strait, Iran agreeing not to make nuclear weapons, and $25 Billion in unfrozen assets. It sounds a lot like the Obama deal except 14 times as much money.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Last I heard; any deal with iran required bibi to stop bombing gaza and lebanon. It was one of their non-negotiables.

Oh, and trump has stated they're signing a deal 34 ******* times so far.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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He'll have a new deal ready in two weeks.

He'll also have won the war at least seven more times by then.

And if he doesn't, he'll just throw Kegsbreath under the bus for it and put a different boot-licking rectal wart in his place.
 

Axaday

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There is a lot more structure this time than his ghosts. Iran and Pakistan both say something is getting signed on Friday. Bibi could still screw it up. I mean, Trump and Iran are both really good at screwing up too. But it isn't just like the 34 times that we were somewhere close to an idea of a plan of a deal.
 

Ironbite4

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Trump's having the time of his life over at G7. And by that I mean utterly embarrassing himself. Few snippets.


Yep...nobody knows what's in the agreement....INCLUDING HIM!


Oh so the real reason he bombed Iran was to impress Obama. Got it. Jesus christ the light ribbing he got from Barack really messed him up mentally didn't it?

And finally my favorite part of this...whatever this was.


Ironbite-HAPPY PRIDE!
 

Ironbite4

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And the MOU has been signed...in Versailles. GOD THAT'S NOT IRONIC!


Anyways, here's the 14 point bullet points.

1 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.

2 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.

3 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.

4 — Immediately upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, the United States lift the naval blockade and prevent any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and restore traffic within a maximum of 30 days to its full capacity; the traffic of ships shall be proportional to the pre-war volume of traffic on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.

5 — Upon signing this Memorandum of Understanding, the Islamic Republic of Iran will immediately take steps to ensure that the movement of merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed within 30 days to the pre-war volume, taking into account the need for the removal of technical obstacles and the neutralization of mines by Iran.

6 — The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, while ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days.

7 — The United States commits to ending, on a schedule to be agreed upon as part of the final agreement, all types of sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, including resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary.

8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reiterates that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States have agreed that the fate of enriched material and the fate of all other mutually agreed nuclear-related issues, including Iran’s nuclear needs, will be adequately addressed in a final agreement; the final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article.

9 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that, pending a final agreement, they will maintain the status quo: Iran will maintain the status quo on its nuclear program, and the United States will not impose new sanctions on Iran or strengthen its forces in the region.

10 — The United States undertakes that immediately after the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and until the date of the lifting of sanctions, the United States Treasury Department will issue waivers for exports of Iranian crude oil, petrochemical products and their derivatives, and all related services, including banking, insurance, transportation, and the like.

11 — The United States undertakes that, in light of the progress of negotiations towards a final agreement, frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available. These funds, whether held in the master account or transferred, will be used for any final beneficiary payment determined by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will be fully available for use. The United States undertakes to issue all necessary permits and licenses on this basis.

12 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that an implementation mechanism will be established to oversee the successful implementation of and future commitment to the Final Agreement.

13 — Following the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and upon receipt of assurances regarding the commencement of implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this Memorandum of Understanding, and the continued implementation of these steps, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States will enter into negotiations for a Final Agreement solely with respect to the remaining Articles.

14 — The final agreement will be approved through a binding resolution of the UN Security Council.


Ironbite-HE'S SUCH A GREAT DEAL MAKER!
 


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