Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
He wants to change the laws, can all those faceless poors, and blame it on the Democrats for PR points. And also claim he's saving all this money for the government (by not paying all those people he got fired, but he'll leave that part out).
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
Citizen
tl;dr Mayor did his own Executive Order to make ICE setting foot on city property illegal, and says he can use that to charge ICE agents there with criminal charges. Chicago police chief says they won't "interfere" with the duties and responsibilities of federal agents, and the mayor stops short of saying the police can arrest them on said charges, saying he's "exploring options.". There is already ordinances in place that the police won't assist ICE in their operations, on the other hand, either. Just one big mess, and the Texans just arrived on top of that.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
FB friend:
The Trump administration hates "critical race theory" for insisting that American racism permeates its institutions, but at the same time, they're also proving critical race theory correct, by creating racist institutions and policies.

They even created written evidence for critical race theory by securing a Supreme Court judgement declaring that it's OK to "detain" people with zero evidence of wrongdoing, based solely on their race.

This is the great irony of the Trump administration: after going to war with "critical race theory", it has created a mountain of irrefutable evidence that critical race theory is correct.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
FB friend:
Not gonna lie: at this point I believe the GOP will handily win the midterms, because they'll post ICE goons near all the polling stations and minority voters will be afraid to vote because they'll be summarily "detained" on the spot and taken away for isolation and abuse on suspicion of voter fraud, even if they're 100% legitimate voters.

Remember, ICE has already set the precedent that they can lock you up on suspicion alone, with zero evidence. And not one of their agents has ever gotten in trouble for doing so.

This means that the midterm elections will be mostly up to white voters, and the statistics for white voters in the last election are not encouraging.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
That plan won't work: if trump rolled out every ice agent, national guardsman and military regular: there aren't enough soldiers to make a meaningful showing at every voting location. Even if you pare it back to JUST ice terrorists, and JUST minority opportunity districts: you still don't have enough man power to make a meaningful threat at every voting location.


Being scared in advance is still obeying in advance.

Edit: as a reminder; the piss poor white person turn out was on the hands of the independents: whom are now economically self motivated to end trumps power.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
He only needs to deploy them in places where the election is close, and where nonwhite voters will make a difference.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
But it's counting on conditions that no longer exist. More people are engaged and aligned against trump than in the last election. Like the gerrymandering in texas: it was counting on latino votes which no longer exist. Facebook friend might have described the optimal outcome for trump: but trump and his regime are also RIDICULOUSLY incompetent.

So sure, he might be able to intimidate minority opportunity districts into not voting... but he's ignoring all the white people voting against him while he does that. Because he's being lied to about who actually likes him and in what volume.
 
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Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
FB friend:
This whole Portland occupation thing is a huge crisis for your democracy, even if it doesn't seem like it. If Trump can just lie and say that there's a state of war in a city where this is objectively not true, and then use that as justification for an armed occupation, then he can suspend anyone's civil rights anywhere, by simply lying about that person or place. It gives him almost unlimited power to use the military against anyone, anywhere in the country.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
Citizen
Well he's about to get his second physical this year, so someone was expecting this.

And so much for CISA:
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
What opsec? Even if jive was supposed to be secret no one in trumps regime is capable of not bragging.
 


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