Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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While the statistics are terrifying, I would make the argument that trump won't last 31 more years: and on one else in his entourage has the... thing (the thing I still don't understand.) that actually makes him popular. His orbit is full of absolutely hated people that everyone else will refuse to cooperate with.

If nothing else, the power vacuum when trump dies will be as destructive as trumps term in general.
I call it anti-charisma. He's so uncharismatic that it loops back around.
 

Cybersnark

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While the statistics are terrifying, I would make the argument that trump won't last 31 more years: and on one else in his entourage has the... thing (the thing I still don't understand.) that actually makes him popular. His orbit is full of absolutely hated people that everyone else will refuse to cooperate with.

If nothing else, the power vacuum when trump dies will be as destructive as trumps term in general.

Here's hoping, but let's not forget that Trump is only a figurehead. He's openly admitted that he doesn't know what's going on in his own administration. The Heritage Foundation exists independently of him, and they're the ones that have actually been doing the work in the background.

The purpose of the cult was to vote his puppetmasters into power; now that they're there and can corrupt future elections, the cult itself is less important. Some of them (both inside and outside Washington) will absolutely turn on each other, but they're not going to suddenly switch sides and become Democrats, nor will the establishment Dems suddenly grow a spine.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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True, but the heritage foundation doesn't have (enough.) power without trump. They might be independent, but it is a symbiotic relationship. And they don't have to become democrats for progress and sanity to win: they just have to fight each other enough to cancel out.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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Also why is it locking certain posts behind signups now? Did it really only take them this long to turn evil and require signups to access the site at all, or is this selective for reasons I can't even fathom and probably neither can the people who made that decision?
 

Ironbite4

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I'm not sure what's up with the link but unlink Twitter, you can see posts without a Bluesky account. Anyways, context for the post.

Ironbite-they're throwing stuff out the window at the White House.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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Also why is it locking certain posts behind signups now? Did it really only take them this long to turn evil and require signups to access the site at all, or is this selective for reasons I can't even fathom and probably neither can the people who made that decision?
According to the message, the poster is the one who set that, not the service.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
I don't understand why that's a feature the site offers, nor why anyone takes them up on it. You're not making it any more private, since just anybody can sign up. All you're doing is gatekeeping your audience based on their affinity for the platform you use.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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American military movies are either dramas about the horrors of war or jingoistic testosterone fests, with nothing really in between (the occasional parody aside). The Bay films lean into the latter pretty heavily, but to say it has anything to do with MAGA when it was a long-established trope for decades beforehand feels like a stretch.
I don't really think so. I mean, sure, "MAGA" wasn't yet a way to refer to it, but "jingoistic testosterone fest" and MAGA are practically synonomous otherwise.
 

CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
Staff member
Council of Elders
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Considering how little defense we do compared to how many wars of choice we do, he's really not wrong on this one.
 

Anonymous X

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I hope all of the people who voted for him because he promised to be the "anti-war president" feel like the simps that they are.
I remember back in 2016 thinking the whole discourse about Trump being the ‘peaceful’ candidate of the two was utter bollocks. Because I recalled how exactly the same narrative was built around Bush during the 2000 election, and we all know how that ended up…
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
So who's he actually planning to go to war with? I haven't heard any bluster about Greenland in a while, and his relationship with Ukraine is more nuanced than I was expecting so I don't see him joining that war on Russia's side either, at least not any time soon.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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So who's he actually planning to go to war with? I haven't heard any bluster about Greenland in a while, and his relationship with Ukraine is more nuanced than I was expecting so I don't see him joining that war on Russia's side either, at least not any time soon.
It's not so much about going to war. I think it's twofold. 1: Trump has been told that incumbents get a boost when we are at war and I really do think he has this idea he's getting another term. And 2: Hesgeth really wants to be the Sec. of War, not Defense. That's a title that garners a reaction not even a little blue pill can replicate.
 


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