Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Dekafox]

So the administration tried to file for a stay on Garcia's case pending appeal(and despite the existing Supreme Court pre-decision), and were soundly thrashed by a REAGAN-appointed judge after a unanimous decision by the 4th circuit appeals court.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25900477/25-1404-ruling.pdf

It makes for a good read if you have time.

The key issue coming up next in the immigration fight is the judge has not identified a "bad actor" yet. You can't hold "an administration" in criminal contempt -- you have to identify a person whose actions are responsible for the contempt. And this administration thrives on avoiding accountability. Who is ultimately responsible for refusing to facilitate the man's return...POTUS, Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of ICE? Have ICE or DHS received an official directive from the White House NOT to facilitate, or are they going off of "vibes" and implicit expectations?

The fact that Trump's administration is a clown show without a clear chain of command or communication will become a defense if the judge proceeds with his order of contempt. No one in the Executive Branch actually knows or cares who is officially responsible for fulfilling the judge's order, and they won't be falling over each other to find out.

Per that filing, the specific defendants are:
KRISTI NOEM; TODD LYONS; KENNETH GENALO; NIKITA BAKER; PAMELA JO BONDI; MARCO RUBIO,
So that is who would be found in contempt I would expect.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

And if they are held in contempt I'm sure the DOJ will get right on it.

 

[Deathy G1]

This interview makes me glad I actually voted correctly for one person on November’s ballot (Senator Angus King of Maine)

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

You can't deter Republicans from yet another dangerous expansion of executive power by asking them how they'll feel once a Democrat is in office and has that power. They plan to rig the system so a Democrat can never occupy the office again.

Just FYI: when Trump's ICE began deputizing and empowering a group of armed civilians like "Veterans on Patrol" to capture and deport anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant or member of MS-13, he created a paramilitary group, outside of government oversight, to serve his agenda. Such paramilitary groups are a sign of fascism, as if you needed another sign to see the obvious.

If you believe there are good people in ICE, you're part of the problem.

 

[Rhinox]

So who wants to get really mad? Like, blood boiling, cardiac episode level of mad?

Trump White House Openly Mocks Maryland Senator for Meeting With Kilmar Abrego Garcia: ‘He’s NOT Coming Back’

"Fixed it for you," the White House shares while annotating The New York Times' coverage of the deportation in red ink The post Trump White House Openly Mocks Maryland Senator for Meeting With Kilmar ...

www.yahoo.com

Yeah. This is the official White House account.
And this should clarify any doubt about contempt charges.

 

[wonko the sane?]

They can level as many contempt charges, or any other kind they want: until there's a viable path to binding trump by law, nothing will happen.

 

[Steevy Maximus]

And it looks like Halloween might be “cancelled”

Tariff Scare Could Haunt Halloween, Cripple Christmas Warns Halloween & Costume Association

The tariff situation grows more dire as manufacturers, retailers, and consumers get spooked.

toybook.com

 

[NovaSaber]

Trump Touts Seemingly Doctored Photo of Abrego Garcia’s Hand in Attempt To Prove Maryland Man Is Gang Member

President Donald Trump posted a photo of himself holding a seemingly digitally altered image of the left hand of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador last month.

www.mediaite.com

Dean Obeidallah (@deanobeidallah.bsky.social)

Trump fabricates a photo of Mr. Garcia with MS-13 tattoo on his hand. This is NOT a real image. Trump and his regime fabricated it. Please understand that Trump regime would fabricate evidence to put you or your family in jail. This is what FASCISM regimes do...

bsky.app

 

[KidTDragon]

Trump Touts Seemingly Doctored Photo of Abrego Garcia’s Hand in Attempt To Prove Maryland Man Is Gang Member

President Donald Trump posted a photo of himself holding a seemingly digitally altered image of the left hand of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador last month.

www.mediaite.com

This is what Mediaite is calling "seemingly doctored":

Tomorrow they're running an article about how water is seemingly wet.

 

[Axaday]

I rely too much on that bell at the top the screen and when I mostly reply to a couple things for a day or so, it stops telling me stuff is happening in other threads.

 

[Anonymous X]

I genuinely believed that it’d take six months to several years for the Trump admin to get this nakedly authoritarian, and I consider myself a pessimist.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

I expected it sooner. I think I underestimated his incompetence slightly.

 

[NovaSaber]

Pavel (@spavel.bsky.social)

"He went to the bathroom, this is our chance" is extremely normal Government [contains quote post or other embedded content]

bsky.app

Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla.bsky.social)

WSJ: “.. So that morning, when Navarro was .. in a different part of the White House, Bessent and Lutnick made their move .. “.. They rushed to the Oval Office to .. propose a pause .. “.. They stayed until Trump tapped out a Truth Social post ..” 🤡...

bsky.app

iTunes Brian 🇨🇦 🇮🇪 🇷🇸 🇺🇦 (@itunesbrian.bsky.social)

No doubt Navarro was off consulting with Ron Vara!

bsky.app

 

[Axaday]

So if someone were to sneak BeneFiber into Navarro's drinks, the country would be better?

 

[CoffeeHorse]

I genuinely believed that it’d take six months to several years for the Trump admin to get this nakedly authoritarian, and I consider myself a pessimist.

In fairness, even Trump didn't know he'd be doing this. He was planning on "normal" deportation flights (though with military planes) like what he feuded with Colombia about. That whole episode feels like years ago already, doesn't it?

This whole scheme was not on anybody's radar. Even while Bukele was becoming a right wing media darling, Trump seemingly wasn't buying it. Throughout the campaign he accused El Salvador of reducing their crime by sending all their criminals here. It was only after the election that Bukele launched himself into Trump's orbit and offered the use of his dungeon. And even then it wasn't obvious he was volunteering to be the excuse as to why the administration cannot comply with court orders.

 

[Pocket]

Trump is the kind of person who acts on impulse and then tends to double down on it when confronted. I say "tends to" because clearly this didn't hold true with the tariffs. And as usual I think the key to understanding his behavior is to picture him as a literal five-year-old child. Whatever happened behind closed doors to make him back down on the tariffs was like that kid being talked down from a bad idea by a peer, whereas a judge telling him you may not do this thing is more like getting reprimanded by a parent.

 

[Dekafox]

Unpaywalled actual WSJ article for your perusal: https://archive.is/NCKRc

This part also sounds totally normal:

Navarro has proven a singular force in Trump’s orbit—a longtime adviser who has channeled Trump’s pro-tariff instincts and often annoyed his colleagues. He served a prison sentence last year but returned as a trade adviser when Trump won, and Trump has told others that Navarro went to prison for him, The Wall Street Journal has reported.

 

[Axaday]

Dekafox, would you go to prison for me?

 

[Paladin]

oh look.

it happened again.

Hegseth shared Yemen attack details in second Signal chat, report says

New claim raises more questions over Trump administration’s handling of secure information

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Axaday]

I seriously don't understand why he can't take his job seriously.