Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Dekafox]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-15/ruble-surges-as-best-performing-global-currency-outpacing-gold

Un-paywalled: https://archive.is/h0I1g

 

[wonko the sane?]

Need to put a stop to that right ******* quick.

 

[Dekafox]

US office that counters foreign disinformation is being eliminated

Conservative critics have long accused the State Department’s Counter Foreign Information Manipulation and Interference Hub of helping to censor the American right.

www.technologyreview.com

Donald Trump's tariffs will make global trade shrink, says WTO

The Geneva-based institution says American tariffs will send international trade into reverse.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ironbite4]

Yep it'll shrink the US right out of global trade.

 

[wonko the sane?]

I've got the fallen coming in from BBTS... eventually. Could it wait till after he ships?

 

[Dekafox]

Heidi Li Feldman (@[email protected])

Thread explaining Judge Boasberg’s finding “probable cause” that the Trump executive is in criminal contempt of court. Bottom line: he is giving the government an opportunity to “purge.” If they don’t he will identify specific individuals who are in contempt and refer the matter for prosecution...

mastodon.social

The court opinion: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.81.0_2.pdf

As this Opinion will detail, the Court ultimately determines that the Government’s
actions on that day demonstrate a willful disregard for its Order, sufficient for the Court to
conclude that probable cause exists to find the Government in criminal contempt.

The Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience of judicial orders — especially by
officials of a coordinate branch who have sworn an oath to uphold it. To permit such officials to
freely “annul the judgments of the courts of the United States” would not just “destroy the rights
acquired under those judgments”; it would make “a solemn mockery” of “the constitution itself.”
United States v. Peters, 9 U.S. (5 Cranch) 115, 136 (1809) (Marshall, C.J.)

III. Conclusion
For the foregoing reasons, the Court will find probable cause that Defendants’ actions
constitute contempt. It will provide them an opportunity to purge such contempt. If they opt not
to do so, the Court will proceed to identify the contemnor(s) and refer the matter for prosecution.
A separate Order so stating will issue this day.

 

[Deathy G1]

Heidi Li Feldman (@[email protected])

Thread explaining Judge Boasberg’s finding “probable cause” that the Trump executive is in criminal contempt of court. Bottom line: he is giving the government an opportunity to “purge.” If they don’t he will identify specific individuals who are in contempt and refer the matter for prosecution...

mastodon.social

The court opinion: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.81.0_2.pdf

The question is: "Who will enforce this?"

 

[Ungnome]

Court has the authority to deputize agents to enforce their orders if the US Marshall Service refuses.

 

[Deathy G1]

Court has the authority to deputize agents to enforce their orders if the US Marshall Service refuses.

And if the security detail assigned to those being arrested refuses to allow access?

 

[wonko the sane?]

Deathy got the right of it: no one will voluntarily move to enforce the ruling. That's part of why it's a ******* crisis.

 

[Dekafox]

The military swears their oath primarily to the Constitution - that's likely where your enforcement agents would come from. Especially service members that have been in there a long time, as they would value that oath.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

That'll depend on how much of the senior staff he's fired and replaced.

 

[Dekafox]

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/chris-krebs-trump-cybersecurity-executive-action-31cb99cb

“Krebs said Wednesday he was resigning from his job at SentinelOne as chief intelligence and public policy officer so he could spend his time on a legal and public-relations battle against Trump without worrying about the firm’s business or contracts.”

El Salvador rejects Democrat's request to see Kilmar Abrego Garcia

Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland is in El Salvador to call for the release of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia.

www.newsweek.com

https://www.reuters.com/legal/california-sues-trump-administration-block-tariffs-2025-04-16/

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

People who continue to support Trump have the energy of a 16-year old girl insisting that if you only got to know her 35-year old boyfriend, you'd see he's actually a great guy and not a creep at all.

Are people ACTUALLY so stupid that they don't see the problem with "it's OK to ignore due process because the government said they're criminals, and criminals don't deserve due process", or are they just white-supremacists who are pretending to be that stupid so they can justify what is obviously a racially motivated policy?

The USA is literally in the "round up undesirables and put them in camps" phase, and the apologists are still pretending that the country has barely made its first baby steps toward fascism.

 

[Xaaron]

The key issue coming up next in the immigration fight is the judge has not identified a "bad actor" yet. You can't hold "an administration" in criminal contempt -- you have to identify a person whose actions are responsible for the contempt. And this administration thrives on avoiding accountability. Who is ultimately responsible for refusing to facilitate the man's return...POTUS, Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of ICE? Have ICE or DHS received an official directive from the White House NOT to facilitate, or are they going off of "vibes" and implicit expectations?

The fact that Trump's administration is a clown show without a clear chain of command or communication will become a defense if the judge proceeds with his order of contempt. No one in the Executive Branch actually knows or cares who is officially responsible for fulfilling the judge's order, and they won't be falling over each other to find out.

 

[Rhinox]

I do wonder how soon we will get to open violence on anyone in ICE. Like, the van rolls up and the people decide they're done and open fire.
Right now they're taking the people too scared to fight back. That isn't going to last very long.
What about the people watching this new Gestapo and deciding to step in when they're taking children, families? Whose going to be the first to catch that bullet?

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

That'll be when the orange cancer declares martial law.

So there's only one chance to get it right.

 

[Dekafox]

Bit of interesting background on El Salvador and the gang thing in this writeup: https://asharangappa.substack.com/p/whats-the-real-quid-pro-quo-with

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

Republicans will never turn on the Trump administration over its casual shredding of the Constitution as long as these human rights abuses are not inflicted on white people. That's the unspoken bright-line rule, and everyone knows it.

If you can't punish your leaders for breaking the law, then there is no law. There is only obedience to authority.

Liberals and conservatives are both "social justice warriors". They just have different ideas of what social justice is. Right now, a liberal SJW is ranting about people being tortured in El Salvador, while a conservative SJW is ranting about transgender female athletes having an unfair advantage in high school girls' sports.

It's funny how all the Trump supporters who dismissed his fascist leanings and said "get back to me when he starts rounding up undesirables and putting them in concentration camps" during his first term are saying absolutely nothing now.

Let's be honest: apart from John McCain, Republicans have NEVER liked the fact that the Constitution prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment", and that's why they're loving this new El Salvadoran end-run around the Constitution. In a nutshell, they think the Constitution is wrong. They've always thought it was wrong. And now they're pretty happy that they found a workaround to defeat it.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Oh, it's not "white people". It's "me, personally and specifically" that will be the point they might actually turn on him. Of course, by then, it'll be far too late.