Superman (Legacy)- Summer 2025

[LordGigaIce]

Apparently they have plans to cast a new Batman for this continuity but to be perfectly honest I think they should just work to integrate Pattinson's Batman into it.
Just avoid the confusion and take advantage of the groundwork already laid.

 

[Ultra Magnus13]

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While I get that is your interpretation of her actions, you can see that she is deliberately going after Superman, even ignoring what she knows is true to go after him. Lois has no problem making her own assumptions about Superman's actions and motivations while not addressing the active dictator that was trying to invade and murder his neighbors, regardless of his motivations. She was actively punishing Superman by being the worst journalist that she could, not the best. Like I said, I found it intellectually dishonest and made it sound like a hit piece. I mean, there is a reason why Superman gets upset here, and it's because he knows what she is doing and can't believe she is doing it.

Spoiler

I don't doubt that they could have raised Clark, but honestly, we got old people talking on the phone wrong joke, followed up an hour later by the dad's generic speech. I can't tell you one part of what he said, but I can still tell you about Costner's speech, or some great dialog from John Schneider's Smallville run, or the fact that TAS Jonathan Kent never told Superman the truth about Santa Claus, or that even Glenn Ford's limited screentime felt more like Pa Kent.

Honestly it wasn't until the end when we got to see the home movies did we get something good out of them. They have limited screen time in this film and they really needed to be able to make the audience love them in that time. Personally, I don't think that they did that.

Also, Costner Kent didn't want the kids to drown, but he didn't know what to do in that situation. He literally would do anything to protect Clark, and showed that by dying in the storm rather than let Clark save him in front of all those people.

Snyders Pa Kent is maybe the worst part of Man of Steel. Costner is great in the role, but the idea of a Pa Kent that doesn't instil real morals in Clark is the antithesis of the character IMO. Pa wanting to protect Clark is fine, but he shouldn't want to protect him att he expense of saving other people. That scene really should have culminated with him stepping up to save his dad, dog, and everyone else and Pa realizing that as much as he wants to protect Clark, that like himself, he is always going to put others first, and use his powers to help.

 

[Rhinox]

Snyders Pa Kent is maybe the worst part of Man of Steel. Costner is great in the role, but the idea of a Pa Kent that doesn't instil real morals in Clark is the antithesis of the character IMO. Pa wanting to protect Clark is fine, but he shouldn't want to protect him att he expense of saving other people. That scene really should have culminated with him stepping up to save his dad, dog, and everyone else and Pa realizing that as much as he wants to protect Clark, that like himself, he is always going to put others first, and use his powers to help.

100 Goddamn percent.
I could deal with everything else, but that one scene destroys that movie and the entire Snyderverse for me. As a father, as a kansan, as a comics fan, it is just the worst take I have ever seen.

 

[Rhinox]

Oh, and Superman will be on streaming in like 2 weeks.

 

[LordGigaIce]

Oh, and Superman will be on streaming in like 2 weeks.

Sitting at $581.1 million. Apparently it needed to make $700 million to be considered a success financially so... not sure where that leaves this right now.

Fantastic Four is only sitting at $473.1 million and Thunderbolts* only made $382.4 million.

And all three of these movies are considered good, critically.

Setting aside the notion that a movie can make over $500 million and still be a letdown... it seems as if superhero fatigue is real, if even the hits aren't bringing in the crowds.

And it's not a "people don't like theatres" thing either. Jurassic Park Rebirth made $800.9 million. Minecraft made $955.1 million. People ARE going to theatres for stuff. Just not comic book stuff.

 

[Axaday]

I don't think that lens is really meaningful anymore. They make so much money in licensing and toys and Amazon rentals and streaming platforms require new big movies on a regular basis to fill their veins. If it were still the way people used to always measure, Hollywood would have folded by now because it is rare for a big action movie to make back its budget at the box office anymore.

 

[The Predaking]

I honestly don't think that the US box office is ever going to recover back to the Pre-covid days.

 

[Fero McPigletron]

Dang it. Well, I guess we're getting only two superhero moves from Marvel and DC at a time.

 

[Rhinox]

Considering that first month or so of streaming has these tentpole movies at 30 bucks or more, I know they're making their investments back on the streaming.
This is the first week Thunderbolts went on any kind of sale and thats why I bought it. I probably won't wait for Superman as I'm excited to see it.