Ranting about quebec: newspark edition!

[wonko the sane?]

And we're done: liberals win with 168 seats, A minority mandate. Opposition is the tories at 144 seats, with the bloc (of all hugging people.) bringing up the rear at 24 seats. Falling way behind at 7 seats is the NDP.

While this is a good outcome; it's not optimal, but it's not bad. The liberals can form a coalition with the NDP and push themselves over the 172 line for a majority; which means they technically can't be blocked; but that's it. The tories will continue to be the party of "no": putting forward no policy, just obstructing everything, so ensure passage of bills, they need the majority: but there's no one else there. So the liberals need to tow the line to make sure they drop below the 145 votes.

Bloc doesn't count; as forming a coalition with them will just piss off the rest of the country. They'll demand ludicrous amounts of money and exceptions to law and oversight for quebec and quebec alone.

Edit: OH YEAH! I forgot! *checks google real quick*

Poilievre lost his riding. Well, thank hugging god, that's the last we'll hear from. And curse god cause the next torie mother fucker will be so much worse.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Alright, so some alberta shmuck has given up his seat for poilievre to have his by-election. I would have bet money that no one would give in to him, cause even the tories do not like him, but here we are.

Given how there's literally no liberal ridings in alberta: I think it would be funny as hell if poilievre lost his new election to a liberal. Course, it would also be hilarious if after all the recounting and such: poilievre losing again pushes the liberals into a majority government.

But I doubt it. He's going to be a persistent case of the clap.

 

[Pocket]

I guess it comes down to who Alberta hates more, Liberals or the French.

 

[Anonymous X]

Hah, just checked the Australian federal election results and their Tory leader lost his seat too. May the trend started in Canada continue to spread worldwide.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Canada's longest ballot is BACK!

For those of you who do not know: pierre poilievre faced a ballot 91 candidates long in his home riding. It was an organized protest in the favour of electoral reform. Well, the same folks who brought you the current longest ballot want to bring an EVEN LONGER BALLOT of 200 candidates... to the small town riding of battlecreek/crows foot. This is not a heavily inhabited region.

More to the point: I want to know what the guy whose leaving got for letting dick parachute in. He was 6 months from getting his federal pension as a politician. Which is an indexed pension: it's hugging valuable.

 

[Ironbite4]

Do you think Poilievre is gonna get the message now?

 

[wonko the sane?]

Ha! Nope! He'll win handily in a small district that's consistently voted 80% torie for decades. He'll probably not win by too much, but he will win. And he'll win sooner rather than later as carney has already stated he won't delay the by-election.

He'll learn when he fails the leadership review later this year. Which he will: tories aren't reasonable people and they will always blame SOMEONE and as the face of the party when the polls went from Torie majority to liberal mandate; he is at fault even if he isn't.

 

[wonko the sane?]

A bunch of stuff this morning.

1.) carney has said that the battle creek/crows foot by-election will happen this summer. Missed the date: but pretty sure it's before canada day.

2.) Smith out in alberta made noises after the election that sounded like she was going to attempt to reconcile and reset their relationship with the federal government, immediately followed by...

3.) stoking seperatism in alberta and changing the rules to make it much, much easier to have that seperation referendum. To the point where the first nations issued a statement saying "you all can leave if you want, but it's our hugging land.".

4.) the PQ have been absolutely overjoyed by the flourishing seperation movement in alberta because the precedent will make it easier for quebec to (illegally.) try again, which is the PQ's entire shtick and they are currently, if slowly, ascendant in provincial politics because of how long we've had an absolutely worthless and leaderless liberal party.

 

[wonko the sane?]

So four ridings went into madatory recounts: it automatic when the difference is less than 100 votes, or something similar.

One of those ridings (in quebec no less!) flipped bloc to liberal. It seems that battlecreek/crows foot might very well have the opportunity to do the funniest thing: vote down poilievre and flip the liberal minority to a liberal majority. THAT might be a strong enough message that the tories understand that canada doesn't not actually want extremism.

Edit:

Terrebone, the riding in quebec; it was won by the bloc by 12 votes. After the recount: 1 vote for liberal. 1. See folks, one vote does make a difference.

 

[Ironbite4]

Wait Wonko....did Poilievre get told to sit the hug down by...QUEBEC!?

Ironbite-seriously?

 

[wonko the sane?]

I mean... a little bit more, technically?

Just to be clear: poilievre is conservative, not bloc. And despite the french last name; he's never lived in quebec.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

Trump says Canada wants to be included under our new Golden Dome missile defense shield. Is he having imaginary conversations or does that sound like anything your leaders have said?

 

[wonko the sane?]

There has been literally no mention of it locally.

Now, american missile defense RELIES, absolutely RELIES on canadian forward detection stations. So he's jive posting before he tries entering into actual negotiations for use of our military intelligence systems.

But no, canada does not want to be included in trumps golden dome bullshit: who the hug is going to bomb canada? I can guarantee there aren't enough bombs in any one arsenal to stop canada from retribution if you do bomb us. Mother fuckers that hate the french will walk all the way from prairies to dig our asses out, then we paddle across the ocean to kill a bitch.

 

[Pocket]

Now, american missile defense RELIES, absolutely RELIES on canadian forward detection stations.

*adds this information to my notes*

 

[Ungnome]

Yea, NORAD is a thing, and has been for longer than I've been alive. It was mutually beneficial for both countries, though even during the height of the Cold War the US was the bigger target. Now... Who wants to bomb Canada? Only one who has said anything about doing that in recent memory is Trump himself.

 

[wonko the sane?]

So, king charles will be doing the speech from the throne this morning at 11 am, central canada time (about one hour from time of posting.). Whether you agree or disagree with the british royals: it will still be a large moment in history.

If you care to watch it, you can stream it here.

CTV live stream. No promises it works outside of canada...

Edit: well, that was... a thing. To be certain.

It started fairly well, and seemed to be heart spoken; but it turned into a listing of liberal party promises and ultimately reminded me why I prefer media I can pause. Telling some dude through a screen 200+ kilometers away to "wrap it up I gotta take a jive" is a self defeating effort.

 

[Anonymous X]

Huh, he did it bilingual too. In rather shaky French. Nice he made the effort? (Unless it’s a mandatory requirement in the Canadian House of Commons, even for monarchs.)

 

[wonko the sane?]

I'm entirely certain it's a requirement; but he still did it, and it was a nice gesture regardless of why he did it.

 

[wonko the sane?]

So it turns out that carney is a harper styled conservative, and we were so panicked over poilievre that we fell for it. All of the upcoming expenditures will paid for through austerity and not taxing the wealthy or corporations.

So yeah... we hugged up.

 

[KidTDragon]

*pulls wonko in for a hug*

Same, brother. Same.