Police behaving badly

Ironbite4

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So I can't find a story on this, shocker, but apparently during the police riots yesterday in response to No Kings, LAPD and LASD opened fired on one another with less lethal rounds.

Ironbite-love it.
 

Dekafox

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Pocket

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Why? The only people who own guns in this godforsaken country are on their side.
 

Ungnome

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Why? The only people who own guns in this godforsaken country are on their side.
I wouldn't quite say that. There are a good number of leftists with guns, likely not as many as right-wingers, though. It's just that the leftists with guns generally don't brandish their weapons as part of some cultural display. I'd say the leftist gun owners are likely more disciplined and accurate with said weapons, though. Only reason I don't have one is due to me feeling uncomfortable wielding tools that can cause grave harm to others(seriously, I'm uncomfortable enough just driving a car, and those aren't specifically designed to wound and kill things).
 

wonko the sane?

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Why? The only people who own guns in this godforsaken country are on their side.
That is absolutely not true.

But the people on the left also believe in the sanctity of human life, and trigger discipline. Oh, and they know a purse popper, or saturday night special is no match for an armalite rifle and suicide by "cop" doesn't serve anything in the long run.
 

Anonymous X

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Honestly, if I was American living in America, I could imagine myself owning a gun. For protection. Being an English man living in Britain, I’m unlikely to encounter a gun outside certain settings like an airport or a party conference,* but it’s a whole different situation in the States given the nature of laws and proliferation of ownership there. That is even with the political views I hold.

* to be fair, the annual Christmas market in my town always has armed police with carbines wandering around. I have no idea why. I suspect actual terror risks now are generally lower than when I was a child and the IRA tried to blow up the local pier.
 

Ungnome

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Eh, most American cities are actually pretty safe. There ARE areas of the country where owning gun for safety might not be a bad idea(either due to wildlife or other people), but most people don't live in said areas. Media tends to exaggerate things.
 

KidTDragon

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That is absolutely not true.

But the people on the left also believe in the sanctity of human life, and trigger discipline. Oh, and they know a purse popper, or saturday night special is no match for an armalite rifle and suicide by "cop" doesn't serve anything in the long run.
People on the left also don't make gun ownership their entire personality.
 

Anonymous X

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Eh, most American cities are actually pretty safe. There ARE areas of the country where owning gun for safety might not be a bad idea(either due to wildlife or other people), but most people don't live in said areas. Media tends to exaggerate things.
Oh, I realise that. Just that looking at the figures, unfortunately the recorded homocide rates are still massively higher in the safer major American cities than even the sketchier European major cities.
 

Ungnome

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Yea, I won't disagree with that. Guns, unfortunately, make it quite trivial to kill someone, or multiple someones. It's another reason I don't own one. I don't trust my own mental stability enough to keep one around me.
 

CoffeeHorse

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It's harder than you think. If you don't want to shoot someone, you will hesitate.
 

Rhinox

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People on the left also don't make gun ownership their entire personality.
Now this is absolutely true. I know quite a few people whose entire identity is wrapped up in a ballistic shell. Those guys are nuts.

Oh, I realise that. Just that looking at the figures, unfortunately the recorded homocide rates are still massively higher in the safer major American cities than even the sketchier European major cities.
This might be a hot take, but bear with me. These homicide rates have far less to do with the amount of guns and way more to do with the rampant poverty and total lack of mental health care. Working security in KC has really opened my eyes to the massive amount of people the system just gives no ***** about and leaves to rot on the street. This leads to so many issues and violent encounters it's not even funny.

It's harder than you think. If you don't want to shoot someone, you will hesitate.
As, I hope, one of the few people here who has drawn a weapon on someone in a situation where there was a possibility/probability I'd have to shoot them, let me tell you it is the hardest thing in the world. Adrenaline is pumping, you're jacked up on all sorts of brain chemicals bouncing around but you have that moment when the gun is in your hand, aimed towards another living person. Your finger moves from universal cover to the trigger and you realize what you are about to do, what you can do, what will happen if you do. And all of this hits in the span of less than a second. It is horrifying. You hesitate because you know what comes next. What you will become. And you pray like you never have that you don't have to do it.
 

wonko the sane?

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Yea, I won't disagree with that. Guns, unfortunately, make it quite trivial to kill someone, or multiple someones. It's another reason I don't own one. I don't trust my own mental stability enough to keep one around me.
Good reaction: if you don't trust your own mental health about it, you will question what you are doing and why. So many americans have absolutely no question, or hesistation about taking the life of another.
 

Rhinox

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If I were to buy a gun, it would be because I want to shoot someone.
. . . . that's a really good reason to never buy a gun.

That's really the thing about guns. As advocates say, they're just tools. But as the other side says, they make it far too easy to do something you and others will regret forever. A knife will kill, but it takes a lot more effort. A gun is a split second.
 

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