You've seen all the recent summits and virtue-signaling "recognitions" that all agree Hamas must disarm and relinquish Gaza, right?
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Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
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But not with an "or else" attached to it. I'm sure they didn't say "If you don't disarm, we will let the Israelis continue to commit war crimes against you".
That's not really the kind of thing that you need to say out loud. Implied, of course, but not out loud.
Almost certainly. What I want to know is how they got Netanyahu on board. He's the one with the anti-Palestinian agenda here, and isn't just chasing clout.
Some reasons why the proposed "peace" deal may not be so "peaceful" or good for Palestinians.
www.bbc.com
Trump peace plan 'ignores interests of Palestinian people', Hamas official tells BBC
A senior Hamas figure told the BBC the group is likely to reject Trump's Gaza peace plan, saying it "serves Israel's interests".
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Looks like that flotilla from earlier was intercepted:
apnews.com
Greta Thunberg among flotilla activists deported from Israel. Others remain in prison
Israeli authorities say they have deported another 171 activists from a Gaza-bound flotilla including Greta Thunberg.
apnews.com
And Isreal decided to go full Nazi on Thunberg.
www.aljazeera.com
Highlights include dragging her around by her hair, forcing her to kneel and kiss an Israeli flag before feeding her, and making her sleep on a cold hard floor.
Ironbite-BUT WE GOTTA DEFEND ISRAEL AGAINST EVERYTHING RIGHT!?
Israel deports Greta Thunberg and other Gaza flotilla activists
Among the 161 arriving in Athens, MEP Rima Hassan reports that she was 'beaten' by Israeli police officers.
Highlights include dragging her around by her hair, forcing her to kneel and kiss an Israeli flag before feeding her, and making her sleep on a cold hard floor.
Ironbite-BUT WE GOTTA DEFEND ISRAEL AGAINST EVERYTHING RIGHT!?
Don't suppose we can get any confirmation from any real media? Or are we supposed to keep trusting the publicists who say the Honey Boo Boo of recycling was "kidnapped" by being sent home?
Do they have video? Because the flotilla filmed enough to show themselves dumping devices with lithium batteries into the ocean, instead of erasing them (or, y'know, not doing this)?
They acknowledged that they were carrying "only a symbolic amount of aid" (that precise phrase appears in literally every piece about them like it came from a press kit) and they conspicuously refused to turn over whatever that "only a symbolic amount" was to Greece, Italy, or the Vatican, which all had offered to send it in for them without forcing a confrontation with the Israeli Navy.
It looks like shifty ragebait constantly piled atop itself.
Do they have video? Because the flotilla filmed enough to show themselves dumping devices with lithium batteries into the ocean, instead of erasing them (or, y'know, not doing this)?
They acknowledged that they were carrying "only a symbolic amount of aid" (that precise phrase appears in literally every piece about them like it came from a press kit) and they conspicuously refused to turn over whatever that "only a symbolic amount" was to Greece, Italy, or the Vatican, which all had offered to send it in for them without forcing a confrontation with the Israeli Navy.
It looks like shifty ragebait constantly piled atop itself.
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I was referring mostly to Ersin Celik and Rima Hassan, who were part of this thing themselves with the whole purpose of raising a sensationalist spectacle. Why do they deserve more credence than anyone embedded in the Canadian trucker protest convoy a few years ago?
Al-Jazeera has a deeply poisonous history (at the "Christkiller" / "Holocaust never happened" level), but I am willing to go on a case-by-case basis with their reporting. I don't particularly care for the New York Post, but they were the first ones I found with video of the flotilla's cell phone tea party.
It is particularly because of my background in environmental activism that I have my radar up. History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes:
www.realityblurred.com
Al-Jazeera has a deeply poisonous history (at the "Christkiller" / "Holocaust never happened" level), but I am willing to go on a case-by-case basis with their reporting. I don't particularly care for the New York Post, but they were the first ones I found with video of the flotilla's cell phone tea party.
It is particularly because of my background in environmental activism that I have my radar up. History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes:
Japanese whalers say Animal Planet staged Whale Wars shooting
Japan’s Institute of Cetacean Research accused the Animal Planet documentary reality series Whale Wars of faking an incident between Sea Shepherd and the Nisshin Maru.
www.realityblurred.com
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Well, they do stubbornly refuse to call it "Gulf of America", so....
Some inaccurate images were used regarding the flotilla:
- https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.77K969F
The "ditch the phones" thing seems to only be in social media and seemingly right-wing/amateur blog posts are the moment. I've not seen any reports in any of the mainstream media, such as BBC, Guardian, etc. Thus, I'm sceptical about this claim at present.
- https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.77K969F
The "ditch the phones" thing seems to only be in social media and seemingly right-wing/amateur blog posts are the moment. I've not seen any reports in any of the mainstream media, such as BBC, Guardian, etc. Thus, I'm sceptical about this claim at present.
Both sides have signed off on the first phase of the peace deal
www.bbc.com
Trump says first phase of Gaza peace deal agreed, paving way for hostage and prisoner releases
Israel agreed to withdraw troops and all Israeli hostages will be released, the US president says, although timings remain unclear.
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I want to believe.
And Isreal decided to go full Nazi on Thunberg.
Israel deports Greta Thunberg and other Gaza flotilla activists
Among the 161 arriving in Athens, MEP Rima Hassan reports that she was 'beaten' by Israeli police officers.
Highlights include dragging her around by her hair, forcing her to kneel and kiss an Israeli flag before feeding her, and making her sleep on a cold hard floor.
Ironbite-BUT WE GOTTA DEFEND ISRAEL AGAINST EVERYTHING RIGHT!?
I want to believe that Israel could be better then what they are. God am I disappointed.
Greta Thunberg: “They kicked me every time the flag touched my face”
– Greta Thunberg on her days in Israeli captivity Beating, kicking, and threats of being gassed in cages. Greta Thunberg and several others from the flotilla ar
Ironbite-god damn it.
Time-stamped to the bit about two very evil men.
JUST GIVE THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE TO THE ORANGE PISS POT AND GET IT OVER WITH!
www.theguardian.com
Ironbite-didn't even last a god damn week.
Israel says it has resumed enforcement of ceasefire after wave of airstrikes on Gaza – Middle East crisis live
IDF says ‘significant strikes’ were in response to Hamas violations
www.theguardian.com
Ironbite-didn't even last a god damn week.