Iran. Nuff said.

Pocket

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We're certainly all better off than if he were actually committed to it. Which, in turn, would be a better scenario than if he were committed and had a clue what he was doing. It's the same reason nobody has ever treated North Korea as a serious threat.
 

Steevy Maximus

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I'm, frankly, at the point I wish the media would STOP reporting every single time Trump would post about an "impending agreement". He's been talking about this "war, but not a war" being close to ending SINCE IT BEGAN. Unless something is in legal writing, it's all noise to jack with the stock market (which is probably the point, TBH)
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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There's nothing in writing because iran refused to negotiate until trump sent ACTUAL negotiators (not kushner and jagoff.) and started releasing frozen iranian funds. Trump can't commit to a large scale war, and his mental illness won't let him admit mistake and actually withdraw troops.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Until he actually has to pay them, in which case he'll start bombing again.

But this is also how wars have traditionally worked: the loser pays for them.
 

KidTDragon

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This is all assuming that anything Vance says can be believed. What incentive does he have to be any more truthful about this than his führer?
 

Pocket

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The fact that he opened his mouth at all is indicative of how desperate they are to spread this one through any channel available. Dude might as well be hiding in Cheney's undisclosed location for as little as we've seen or heard from him this entire adminstration.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Oh hug. He gave them everything and his daughter, didn't he?
Not far off. From what I've read, while Iran is supposed to be agreeing to keeping the Straight of Hormuz open and a stop of military actions...in exchange they get some $25 BILLION in unfrozen assets (depending on nuclear agreement), PLUS another $300 BILLION in a reconstruction fund, lifting of the Naval blockade, restrictions on Israel's military actions, and another 60 days to work out a nuclear non-proliferation agreement. An agreement (like many Trump said were "bad deals" under Obama) will probably look pretty damn similar to what Obama managed to get done WITHOUT giving Iran hundreds of billions, an elevated political position in the region, all while the US undermines its international standing.

"The Great Deal Maker", indeed!
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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I've had pro-war cheerleaders elsewhere tell me that this was all done to liberate the Iranian people from the tyranny of the current regime. And that I'm a monster for not thinking that collapsing the global economy is worth making that happen.

So are we any closer to the Iranian people thanking us for their freedom?
 


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