In Space No One Can Hear You Scream: An Alien thread

Ultra Magnus13

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I dunno. Brad Dorif making kissy faces to a xenomorph through a glass window is something that totally happened.
Lol, yeah, it's honestly not the worst. The aesthetic is really bad compared to the others as it just looks like generic 90s sci-fi, and the "cloning" and improving the Xeno plot points are dumb. If they had dropped the Ripley and clone stuff, and instead just had the crew of the Betty stumble into a ship that had Aliens get loose it would have been decent I suppose.
 

Caldwin

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I'll tell you what though. If the next movie finds a way to reconcile this black goo Prometheus virus strain of xenomorph with there being a life cycle that includes the queen that we've had ever since the second movie back in 1986...I'll be quite happy to give this different life cycle a break and just go with it.
 

Fero McPigletron

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The end of 2024 New Year's Eve party I attended had a 'space' theme so I pinned a Xenomorph facehugger plushie on my shirt and used double sided tape for mini facehuggers, hehe
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Axaday

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So is Romulus pretty okay? I didn't bother with it because I saw Prometheus, but I'm not clear how related they are. I just bumped into some plot points from Romulus while refreshing my memory of Alien and Aliens.

Edit - At this point is there anyone who is a fan of Alien that doesn't ignore some of the sequels?
 
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Caldwin

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Wait, someone made a general Alien thread? That's so awesome...wait...I made this? When did I...wha?

Anywaaaay...Romulus was pretty good, right up to a point.

My take on the Alien life cycle is that there is the cycle Cameron nailed down (queen>egg>facehugger>xenomrph). Starting with Prometheus, Ridley Scott threw all that out the window and made the Alien into some ever-mutating virus.

At first Romulus looked like it wouldn't confirm or deny one or the other. But as it went on, it fell firmly in line with the Prometheus virus way of thinking.

Until then, I wouldn't say it was an awesome movie, but it was pretty good. It was certainly better than anything we've gotten since Alien 3. But once they locked into the Prometheus virus, I lost interest.
 
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Ultra Magnus13

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So is Romulus pretty okay? I didn't bother with it because I saw Prometheus, but I'm not clear how related they are. I just bumped into some plot points from Romulus while refreshing my memory of Alien and Aliens.

Edit - At this point is there anyone who is a fan of Alien that doesn't ignore some of the sequels?
I really liked it. IMO it fixes a lot of the issues with Prometheus and Covenant without out right retconning them. Its easily the 3rd best in the series.
 

Axaday

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I really liked it. IMO it fixes a lot of the issues with Prometheus and Covenant without out right retconning them. Its easily the 3rd best in the series.
After 1 and 2?

I have only seen 1-3 and Prometheus and only liked 1 and 2.
 

Fero McPigletron

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I saw an Aliens Romulus thread but this seems more general.

Saw 1 ep of Aliens Earth.

Kinda bored me. Start with the Cyborgs, Synths and Hybrids was nice but I'm not really fond of any of them.

The blood boil alien is weird but didn't see the outcome.

How long is this series? Hope it gets better.
 

Caldwin

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Yeah, I searched YouTube and realized I actually saw that trailer before. It looks okay, but I have no inclination to subscribe to Disney+ for...well...anything really.
 

Echowarrior

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Yeah, I searched YouTube and realized I actually saw that trailer before. It looks okay, but I have no inclination to subscribe to Disney+ for...well...anything really.

It's also airing on FX and streaming on Hulu, and given previous experience, this will likely get a physical home media release within a year.
 

Fero McPigletron

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Watched the second episode. I liked it better, with two emotional responses from me. One is the whole sibling thing. Two is the urge to strangle that blabbermouth.

There's still some stupid humans response thing. One side has a reason, no proper emotions or whatever.

Still though, they just saw that boil crawl away and didn't capture it. It was too big to squeeze away so would have been an easy catch.

Would love to see more alien types.

Pacing is odd, cuz it's only been hours.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Wait, someone made a general Alien thread? That's so awesome...wait...I made this? When did I...wha?

Anywaaaay...Romulus was pretty good, right up to a point.

My take on the Alien life cycle is that there is the cycle Cameron nailed down (queen>egg>facehugger>xenomrph). Starting with Prometheus, Ridley Scott threw all that out the window and made the Alien into some ever-mutating virus.

At first Romulus looked like it wouldn't confirm or deny one or the other. But as it went on, it fell firmly in line with the Prometheus virus way of thinking.

Until then, I wouldn't say it was an awesome movie, but it was pretty good. It was certainly better than anything we've gotten since Alien 3. But once they locked into the Prometheus virus, I lost interest.
Sorry to dig this up, but I felt compelled to add my nickel to this:
I like the idea that the “xenomorph” is some forever adapting life form. What I found amusing about the backlash about the “virus” origins is that most of the Alien 3 scripts (I’ve read the Gibson “action” version and seen the Dark Horse adaption of a later, horror centric, revision) seem to have moved towards the Alien mutating into some airborne parasite/mutator. And I know that in cut material from Alien, two of the surviving crew were being “cocooned” to, presumably, mutate into a new egg (meaning the human must mutate into a new facehugger in some fashion).

So, the “virus” thing doesn’t bother me too much. I think using that as a plot device to “adapt” the Alien to different scenarios is as good a means as any to bypass issues where the plot/scenario doesn’t allow for the traditional cycle.
 

Echowarrior

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Honestly, I don't mind it either way. Ridley Scott's interpretation, and the interpretation taken by Gibson, is that the xenomorphs are essentially biological weapons. The idea that a weapon can have redundancies isn't implausible. The Engineers (or David, or whoever, depending on your interpretation) over-engineered their creations, and paid the price for it.
 

ZakuConvoy

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I watched the first two episodes of Alien Earth, too.

...I'm right on the edge of liking it and not liking it.

I actually think there's a interesting enough sci-fi story idea in here. The stuff with the siblings is actually kind of interesting. But, it almost feels like it doesn't have much to do with "Aliens" at all. It's like they had a script for a sci-fi show or movie and just added the Aliens in after the fact.

Between these two episodes, there's only about...7 minutes of actual Xenomorphs here, over the span of about 2 and 1/2 hours. I was actually a little confused when the other aliens started showing up, because I thought they were just facehugger-variants that I had missed from one movie or another or something.

I do like the high concept of the Xenomorphs finally arriving on Earth proper after all these years. For a franchise that's been going on this long, I think this is fair territory to travel down. They haven't done much with it yet, but maybe as the series goes on, it'll get more interesting on that side of things. Though, I'm not sure how far they can actually go, since this is technically a prequel to the first Aliens movie.

The first episode is also pretty slow, and I'm not sure if I like how it's edited. It's...fine, probably. But, it feels like it's chopped up just for the sake of doing things out of order with the flashbacks. The rock songs they're playing over the end credits are fun, but really don't feel like they fit the tone of the show.

So, this is fine, probably. Most of my problems mostly stem from budget-related issues. It's hard to do a Aliens TV show when you can only really afford to show the actual Aliens themselves for a couple of minutes per episode. They're doing their best. I'm just not sure if I like it. But, this is probably about 8 episodes long, so I can probably just keep watching it. It's not that much of a commitment.
 
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Noip

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They were ok, but I don't know if they were ok enough to continue watching. Especially if it moves to streaming-only or somesuch.

It didn't really fire my imagination all that much.
 


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