Harris-Walz / Dems

[Pocket]

At this point, keeping the shutdown going indefinitely just to hurt the maximum number of needy people as possible probably is the Republcians' actual goal, so you could offer them anything and they'd still say no. You could probably offer a full concession to whatever the hell their demands were in the first place and they'd still say no, after getting over their initial shock.

I guess the question is, whose votes are more valuable: People who normally support Republicans but could turn on them if they realize what's really going on here... or people who would take the concession offer seriously and use it as an excuse to turn their backs on the Democrats yet again.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

At this point, keeping the shutdown going indefinitely just to hurt the maximum number of needy people as possible probably is the Republcians' actual goal

This is why they're getting blamed even though it is true that they're the ones who keep voting to reopen the government. We all know the administration has been wanting some fight or another to trigger a shutdown so they can initiate those RIFs they've been dreaming about since term 1. It's why they're not jumping on the chance to say "Look! The radical left Democrats shut down the government but we got you your SNAP anyway after a so-called judge said so. You can count on us." They don't want to fund it even if they could try to take credit for funding it. Not funding it is the point. They've been wanting this to happen.

 

[Ironbite4]

I will say, after I made that post, I did some digging and it really is the most brilliant political move of all time. The fact that it came from Chuckie S though....

Ironbite-maybe he does know what he's doing.

 

[wonko the sane?]

He does, the problem is that he's an old fashioned idealist. He's largely unwilling to admit that all the republicans are currently complicit and is hoping that acting as he should will encourage them to do the same.

But barbarians will not learn, or care about decorum.

 

[KidTDragon]

Guess who f*cking caved on the shutdown.

Senate advances funding measure with backing of 8 Democrats, moving a step closer to ending shutdown

On Day 40 of the shutdown, eight Democrats joined Republicans in advancing a government funding measure, after 14 previous votes fell short.

www.cbsnews.com

It's like they completely forgot about the leverage last week's blue wave gave them.

 

[Pale Rider]

They found enough Dem senators who weren't facing re-election any time soon to buckle like a belt.

 

[Rhinox]

Pretty much. Several are retiring. One is an independent with his head up his ass. None face consequences for years.
hug each and every one of them.

 

[Pocket]

It's like they completely forgot about the leverage last week's blue wave gave them.

What leverage? They didn't gain any seats; that was all in Virginia's state assembly.

 

[wonko the sane?]

The massive changes THEMSELF were leverage. It was literally "Look at what your actions and choices did".

 

[Rhinox]

What leverage? They didn't gain any seats; that was all in Virginia's state assembly.

The polls show that the GOP and Trump are way out of favor. The shutdown is being blamed on them by everyone except the cult. They have no momentum coming out of this election and heading to midterms. The democrats hold every advantage. All they have to do is stay on message and hold the ******* line.

Instead we got mental invalids, cowards, and assholes.

 

[KidTDragon]

And the Republicans are immediately trying to trade that inch Schumer gave them for a mile.

Republicans demand tougher abortion restrictions to extend Obamacare funds

Democrats say that’s a nonstarter, arguing there are already limits on abortion access. The dispute could torpedo a deal, leading to higher health insurance premiums for millions.

www.nbcnews.com

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