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MrBlud

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People only care about “the border” insofar as it impacts the working class.

If people were making $25 an hour they wouldn’t care anywhere near as much about immigration.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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I mean, what's the alternative? Term limits, right? But what are we more likely to get? Term limits or age limits?
I'm far more okay with the idea of term limits than I am with the idea of an arbitrary age limit that paints all people of a given age with the same brush.
 

Sjogre

Active member
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Honestly... I think that I prefer age limits over term limits.

If someone gets into office young, they can end up term limited before they get ancient, without actual stopping a gerontocracy from forming.

Age limits, on the other limb... Frankly, we really should be minimizing the chance of people dying in office, so discouraging people from running after they hit retirement age shouldn't be something we fight. Yeah, being old doesn't mean decrepit or that they're inactive, but working until you die really shouldn't be normalized, either.

And, not to beat around the bush, but older people do have options to influence public opinion without actually being in office.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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Yeah, being old doesn't mean decrepit or that they're inactive, but working until you die really shouldn't be normalized, either.
Come to think of it, aren't there some hyper-progressive countries that actually make it mandatory for everyone to retire when they reach the legal retirement age? I assume that includes elected officials.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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There may be, I'm not sure, but I've also seen studies that indicate people who work late into life tend to be happier than those who retire to a life of leisure. Granted 'work' in this case isn't the mandatory 'work to live' type situation most of us end up in. People, even elderly people, like to feel useful and to explore areas they are passionate about. Watching TV and golfing every day generally don't fill that itch.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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Maybe in countries that pay people enough to actually live, they can enjoy retirement. Here in the US, on the other hand......
Yeah. I've been at many jobs (including my current one) where geriatrics are forced to work because they just cannot survive. Hard work, hours on their feet because their social security just doesn't pay the bills.
 


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