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Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
With Fox making an appearance in Super Mario Galaxy and now having a game released today, I thought Star Fox deserved to finally have its own thread.

I don't think I've ever been a hardcore fan like I am for other franchises. But I have owned all the games at one point or another. And of course I like Krystal.

I usually start these threads off by rating all of the games in the franchise... but I'm at work on a phone that's already killing my carpal tunnel. So...discuss!
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
Starfox (SNES)
This game was amazing back in the day. It really showed off what the SNES could do with 16 bit. I don't know if it was the first game to use polygons (I don't think it was). But it certainly gained the attention. It was a strong first venture

Unfortunately, two things kill it for me. No aiming reticule really makes things hard to hit. Star Fox 64 dod everything this one did only better, making this hard to come back to.

A+

Starfox 2 (SNES...unreleased until the mini console)

It's...okay. But if there's one thing that will make me stop playing a game, it's having a timer and making me have to go multiple places at one before the enemy attacks. It's why I don't like Tower Defense. It's why I don't like the Dynasty Warriors type games. I want to be able to focus on one thing at once.

C

Star Fox 64

I think it says something that this has been on the N64, remade for 3DS and now remade for Switch 2. They hit it out of the park with this one. And while N64 graphics on a CRT typically hurt my eyes these days, I can still go back to this on original hardware and still enjoy it.

S

Star Fox Adventures
Let's see...first appearance of Krystal, awesome. Every other NPC in this game, not so awesome. Zelda like gameplay, awesome. Zelda like gameplay in a Starfox game, not so awesome. Krystal being so awesome that she deserves to be mentioned twice, awesome. The fact that Nintendo pulled another Doki Doki Panic, not so awesome.

C

Starfox Assault
So I seem to remember a lot of backlash for the ground missions. I'm going to be honest, whether through: time, trauma repression or nostalgia...I just don't remember the ground bits too well.

What I do remember is having a lot of fun with the Arwing sections right up until I realized one thing...

If I can't defeat a boss with full powered lasers and a full stock of bombs, what chance do I have being checkpointed at a point where now I have to face the boss with weak lasers and minimal bombs?

B

Starfox Command
Remember what I said about being pulled in a bunch of directions at once? I liked the Arwing sections. I absolutely hated the command sections. Add in the character assassination of Krystal and the fact that she has never appeared in Starfox since this game...

D-

Starfox 64 3D

I mean...it's an uprezzed, 3D version of Starfox 64. That in itself gives it a rating advantage. Giving it a mode to replay any stage that's been unlocked just makes it even better.

S

Starfox Zero

*sigh*

I think they were too ambitious with this one. They were given tools and they had ides how to use every single one of them. Unfortunately, this lead to a complexity disaster.

You're looking at the main screen. You're looking at your WiiU controller screen. You're having to deal with both at the same time.

It's a learning curve that I finally overcame when I first tried to play it...just to take a break for a bit and coming back to the same learning curve again!

Starfox has always had problems keeping a steady audience past N64. When you're trying to keep a franchise living when it's audience is already wary...KEEP IT SIMPLE, STUPID!

C-

Starfox (2026)

Okay, so far I've only played the demo and Corneria of the full game. And sure, it's yet another remake of a game that's already been remastered.

But sonfar, it is a beautiful remake of one of the best games ever made. They tightened up the controls that were already tight. They beautified a game that was already beautiful. They deepened the lore.

I've only beaten the first mission plus the demo. So I can only offer a preliminary rating. I'm loathe to give an "S" rank to a game I've only played the first stage of. So I'll have to come back to this later.

A+ (tentative grade)
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
Citizen
Starlink is a Starfox game in all but name, if you haven't tried it yet. The Fox storyline is only a part of the Switch version though, and it's probably fairly hard to find the toy addons these days, so going digital is probably the better path now if you don't have it yet(though you do miss out on a physical Arwing model that way).
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
I've played it, and still have it. It's not technically a Starfox game, so I didn't put it in my rankings. I loved the open world, interplanetary aspect of it. Unfortunately, I got burned out on the whole liberating new planets while also defending old planets at the same time bit.
 

CoffeeHorse

Hanging in there
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I'm just glad this franchise isn't dormant anymore. Even if they're still stuck on 64, at least 2026 looks quality. If I had a Switch 2 I'd have to get it.
I need my money. Why am I still waiting? T_T​

I gotta defend Assault. The ground missions are fine. They still have vehicles so if that's a red line for you, you're in luck. Sometimes you need them. Sometimes they're optional. It gives those stages a lot of flexibility. I'm sure somebody out there has figured out the fastest route through them, but it's not obvious. Unless you do find that theoretical fastest route, you're going to play through those stages a little differently every time. That's great.

Yes it's too short. It sucks that there's only one route through the game, where Star Fox had three and 64 had however many. But the flexibility within stages almost makes up for it. This was the future, and fans rejected it out of hand for some reason.
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
I...I actually beat it. I mean, I got the bad ending...but I beat it! I've played all the Starfox games. I never won one. Wow!
 

M. Virion

Bent but unbroken
Citizen
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The package has been acquired. This is going to be my first real experience with a Star Fox. I've tried them before at either a friend's house, or on the SNES classic, but this is the first one I bought to actually play myself. I'm excited.

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After a bit more than an hour I've finished my first run. Bad ending. Easy difficulty. I suck at this. I loved it. I want to get better, I want to unlock and find everything. This is FANTASTIC. I finally GET why people love Star Fox.

Now I have to get a camera, cause the avatars and accessories are amazing.
 
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M. Virion

Bent but unbroken
Citizen
Second run complete, still playing on easy to get used to it and improve - but successfully got the true ending in my attempt to unlock Katt's avatar.

Which I did. Now I just need to buy a camera.

Game slaps hard. I LOVE this.

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Update: Best Buy had the camera on sale for $30, so I am now a Katt Monroe VTuber.
 
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Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
I'm going for the good ending now, but I think I'm going to have to retry Sector Z a few times to get it right.
 

M. Virion

Bent but unbroken
Citizen
I'm surprised how much I like the multiplayer, and really happy it has an offline vs. bots mode.

- 4 runs down, all areas unlocked. Time to work on challenges to get good/feel comfortable enough to play on higher difficulties.
 
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Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
I'm still at Sector Z. I haven't tried since Friday. I'm a bit intimidated by the tower defense nature of it. I'll probably try it again in the next couple days. I really want to get that good ending...but boy oh boy, I hate tower defense.

Ideal DLC for this version: Wingman selection: Panther, Krystal, Miyu, Fay, Katt, Bill. Each changes something to a level like opens a new route. OST remix: OG Starfox ( perhaps orchestrated).

Yes! Exactly this. If it's the only way I can get Krystal in a Starfox game now, I'll take it!

Katt offers a buff to make things easier getting to hidden areas. Krystal is broken, giving buffs in everything because she's just that awesome. Slippy...actually debuffs the entire party.
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
I finally got good ending. That tower defense against those missiles was a chore, but I finally did it. Now I have have all stages unlocked for Challenge Mode. Yay!

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M. Virion

Bent but unbroken
Citizen
Beat it on normal for the very first time, between doing better on that than I did on my first easy run and playing a bunch of the multiplayer - I can actually tell I've improved.
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
I probably could do a normal run bad ending, but I'm a bit too chicken jive to try. Like, I already beat it, already unlocked the levels on challenge mode. But I'm just to chicken to go for normal mode.
 

Caldwin

Banned for posting Metroid's flesh doors
Citizen
I had to watch the stream afterwards. I'm glad you were able to stick around long enough to beat "Andross."

Just a tip for future playthroughs, in that particular Star Wolf encounter, I'm pretty sure you can ignore Star Wolf and destroy the pillar in the middle of the stage. Once you destroy the pillar, that's the end of the stage.

Also in that part where you're taking on the towers while flying in a circle, I find it easier to get just past a tower than turn around (not U-turn, but actually turn around) You go slower and you can just get right up next to the target and unload. Not sure if that how you're supposed to do it, but it works for me.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I had to watch the stream afterwards. I'm glad you were able to stick around long enough to beat "Andross."

Awesome! I hope you enjoyed it! 😸

Just a tip for future playthroughs, in that particular Star Wolf encounter, I'm pretty sure you can ignore Star Wolf and destroy the pillar in the middle of the stage. Once you destroy the pillar, that's the end of the stage.

Yeah, but... we kinda wanted to take down Star Wolf...

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Also in that part where you're taking on the towers while flying in a circle, I find it easier to get just past a tower than turn around (not U-turn, but actually turn around) You go slower and you can just get right up next to the target and unload. Not sure if that how you're supposed to do it, but it works for me.

Ooh, I think I remember doing that in the original! Thanks, we'll have to remember that next time.
 
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