Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/09/25/hegseth-generals-quantico-meeting/

Wasn't sure whether to put this in the Ukraine thread or here, but this seems very unusual and somewhat suspicious. It might have something to do with NATO ramping up it's rhetoric towards Russia (threatening to start shooting down anything Russian that invades members airspace). On the other hand, I find the timing suspicious what with the looming (and quite possible) government shut down, I don't really trust anything that Trump may be planning to do with the military.

 

[wonko the sane?]

It's the next step in the fascist playbook: they're going to fire as many of the generals and admirals as they can and consolidate that power under lackeys and lickspittles they control.

 

[Steevy Maximus]

It's the next step in the fascist playbook: they're going to fire as many of the generals and admirals as they can and consolidate that power under lackeys and lickspittles they control.

“They got the universal fascist playbook and they’re running it step by step…”

 

[Ungnome]

Only upshot is that yes-men generally make for poor leadership and will cripple the effectiveness of the US military.

 

[wonko the sane?]

hegseth already did that, this makes it harder to come back from that. The question is: who is going to take advantage.

 

[Dekafox]

Trump escalates retribution campaign with charges against Comey and threats against liberal groups

President Donald Trump’s unprecedented retribution campaign against his perceived political enemies has reached new heights as his Justice Department brings criminal charges against a longtime foe and he expands his efforts to classify certain liberal groups as “domestic terrorist organizations."

apnews.com

 

[Ironbite4]

It's the next step in the fascist playbook: they're going to fire as many of the generals and admirals as they can and consolidate that power under lackeys and lickspittles they control.

Yeah about that....

Dan Lamothe (@danlamothe.bsky.social)

WAPO SCOOP: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered hundreds of generals to travel on short notice from around the world to hear him make a speech on military standards and the “warrior ethos,” multiple people familiar with the event told The Washington Post...

bsky.app

Ironbite-he literally could've zoomed this confrence.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Well thank god. This meeting could have been an email, and the email should have been caught by the junk filter. Given the new information: it was a strictly political theater show of force and that none of them will respect or appreciate. Which is as it should be.

More to the point: the american military doesn't NEED a "warrior" ethos, it needs a SOLDIER ethos. No modern military needs dimwits with automatic weapons running around pretending to be medieval warriors.

Edit: we really aren't appreciating just how ******* bad these fuckwits are at being fascists.

 

[Fullstrength Motleypuss]

Edit: we really aren't appreciating just how ******* bad these fuckwits are at being fascists.

Not really. It's slight of hand - just distraction after distraction after distraction while they lay the groundwork for suspending any future elections thereby securing themselves power for the foreseeable future.

 

[Ironbite4]

Yeah can we not with the doomerism? That's defeatist at best.

Ironbite-and annoying.

 

[Ungnome]

They are scared, they know what's coming in 2024. They push too far and the people WILL push back. Purging the military won't exactly help their goals. They now have a bunch of trained soldiers with a chip on their shoulder against the current administration.

 

[wonko the sane?]

They are scared, they know what's coming in 2024. They push too far and the people WILL push back. Purging the military won't exactly help their goals. They now have a bunch of trained soldiers with a chip on their shoulder against the current administration.

Thing is: they already HAD that. A lot of vets voted trump, sure: but since he's openly and maliciously gutted the VA. Between that and putting absolute bell ends like kegsbreath in charge has a lot of current military and former military seething.

 

[Axaday]

Trump says he’s ordered the declassification and release of all government records on Amelia Earhart

President Donald Trump says he has ordered the government to declassify and release all records on missing aviator Amelia Earhart.

apnews.com

EPSTEIN, Donald. They said EPSTEIN

 

[Ungnome]

Thing is: they already HAD that. A lot of vets voted trump, sure: but since he's openly and maliciously gutted the VA. Between that and putting absolute bell ends like kegsbreath in charge has a lot of current military and former military seething.

By purging current soldiers who they consider 'disloyal'(aka, not yes-men for Trump) they will balloon that number and the new ones will be younger and more up to date with current military systems and tactics than the older vets.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Assuming they're even capable of pushing "disloyal" folks out. Soldiers are nothing if not determined, and most of them understand they'll be around long after trump is gone.

 

[wonko the sane?]

So I just learned something perhaps worrying.

The meeting on tuesday? The "never happened before" entire american military leadership in one room at the same time time meeting? Trump won't be there.

The only room on the planet where everyone will stand up and salute him: and he won't be there. So whatever is going to happen: the chance of it being directly associated to trump outweighs his narcissistic need to be paid attention.

 

[KidTDragon]

The Justice Department is ramping up Trump’s election-rigging efforts

DOJ officials have sued six more states to demand sensitive voter data.

www.motherjones.com

But at least Portland, Oregon - so long embattled by endless military conflicts - is finally going to be saved:

 

[Axaday]

The Justice Department is ramping up Trump’s election-rigging efforts

DOJ officials have sued six more states to demand sensitive voter data.

www.motherjones.com

But at least Portland, Oregon - so long embattled by endless military conflicts - is finally going to be saved:

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Can't we demand that Germany and Poland and France send troops? Does it always have to be the National Guard?

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

So I just learned something perhaps worrying.

The meeting on tuesday? The "never happened before" entire american military leadership in one room at the same time time meeting? Trump won't be there.

The only room on the planet where everyone will stand up and salute him: and he won't be there. So whatever is going to happen: the chance of it being directly associated to trump outweighs his narcissistic need to be paid attention.

Plausible deniability. Whatever direction Kegseth is giving, it's going to be bad enough that even Kraznov is worried about backlash, so by not being there, he can pretend he had no idea what was going on and let his toadies take the heat.

I mean, even if he WAS there, he's such a brain-rotted, senile old shitbag that it's entirely plausible he wouldn't know what was going on anyway, but that way it sounds like weakness.

 

[wonko the sane?]

I think it looks like weakness either way: you literally order the entire military command structure into one room and as their boss don't turn up? Weak and petty. Which is trump in a nutshell.