Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: stock renders of upcoming Alpha Trion, Micronus, Flatline, Fireflight, Skydive, ++

Princess Viola

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This team's been wise to do this on the neutral turf of Instagram instead of picking a forum. As much as I'd love to have them here, I get why that didn't work out for Orson's World and why it wouldn't work out now.
yeah it's called most of the fandom aren't even on forums these days heyooooooo
 

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Hey, I know EVERYTHING there is to know about toy design, and I learned it all on fan forums! Plastic comes from petroleum, which we get from...petrorabbits, I think...and then that gets cast into steel molds made from a resin prototype which was assembled by elves working at the North Pole, and they do it free so any cost cutting is entirely because Hasbro hates fans, and the product should always be whatever I was thinking of when fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft...no, wait, that figure's not out yet, doesn't count. And plasticizer can't melt cardboard.

I should probably admit that due to Transformers not normally impacting my eating/medical situations, I see the whole thing as entertainment and only tend to pay attention during the fun parts. I may have missed a step or two. Whatever. I still am waiting for those Combaticon preorders to go live.
 

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Well, tbf to Aaron, he tried. "Orson's World" over on TFW2005 was him interacting with fans and answering questions about the process and how things worked til, as I understand it, Someone bitched about him doing so and he got reprimanded hard, and had to stop doing that and afterwards he became very tight lipped.

It was due to this, as an example, that Armada's faction symbols got fixed from being just blobs (Hasbro trying to save money) to being outlined since he saw how much feedback there was about it and how long it would take to get fixed (Wave 3, since wave 2 at the time was already in production and too late to change things)
Even beyond Orson's World, the Hasbro Q&As where the sites would submit questions for Hasbro to give wishy washy non-answers weren't exactly better either.
 

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This reminds me of how people told Hasbro for years they wanted tech specs to be brought back and Archer thought people were talking about the stats and numbers and not the character bios, so he was caught off guard when they added the numbers back and people still demanded tech specs. :D
He did interpret that correctly. The tech specs are the numbers (I say this as someone who also always conflated them, despite reading "bio and tech specs" with my own eyes for years, heh)

I don't agree with the "they shouldn't share anything" take because I think that being as open and approachable as they can be has been one of this team's strengths.
I just think the fandom as a whole needs to realize that they know next to nothing about toy design, and what they do know has been what the team has decided to share. More people just need to accept that reading a few behind the scenes posts about "partials" and "sub-capsules" doesn't mean they know stuff.
I don't think I've ever said they shouldn't share anything. When I say they're well within their rights not to, I'm saying they shouldn't HAVE to share anything. And they do not. They are neither obligated nor expected to. That they choose to do so anyway is what I appreciate.

I'm with you on how "thinking they know everything because of a few inside baseball terms" is annoying behavior, but it's more the sheer general sense of entitlement (which that is a facet of) I'm weary of. And wary of.

None of this stuff is life-and-death information. None of this is relevant to our jobs or lives beyond the added texture it lends this one part of our entertainment landscape. They don't work for us (fandoms routinely get this wrong), and they're not our elected representatives. This info shouldn't even have that big an impact on our spending, which is the most functional link here I can see (unless someone needs to be told Flatline is a partial of AOTP Red Alert rather than see it, or needs the lineup revealed months ahead of when it would be revealed anyway to make plans). Stuff the company IS obliged to make available is down that hallway at the shareholders report.

(Listening to feedback is information going the other way, and boy, they sure don't need to open an official channel for fans to start offering THAT.)

There's no NEED for behind-the-scenes anything, which is what makes it a nice gesture for them to offer it anyway in the first place.
 

Superomegaprime

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Hey, I know EVERYTHING there is to know about toy design, and I learned it all on fan forums! Plastic comes from petroleum, which we get from...petrorabbits, I think...and then that gets cast into steel molds made from a resin prototype which was assembled by elves working at the North Pole, and they do it free so any cost cutting is entirely because Hasbro hates fans, and the product should always be whatever I was thinking of when fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft...no, wait, that figure's not out yet, doesn't count. And plasticizer can't melt cardboard.

I should probably admit that due to Transformers not normally impacting my eating/medical situations, I see the whole thing as entertainment and only tend to pay attention during the fun parts. I may have missed a step or two. Whatever. I still am waiting for those Combaticon preorders to go live.

Just remeber that Dai cast construction, is a lost art!!
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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There's something that's always bugged me about Star Convoy/Optimus Prime's alt mode, going back years -- decades, even -- but I could never quite put my finger on it.

Then, as I was looking at the AotP box art on my desktop, it finally hit me:

It's basically the more heavily-armed Optimus equivalent of Rodimus Prime's alt mode!

There's a few other little changes, like the back wheels being tank treads, sure but at its core, it's the same basic shape-- they're both damn space Winnebagos! Literally, in OP's case!

No wonder Micromaster Hot Rod likes to ride around in side of him -- it's like being Rodimus Prime again, minus the responsibility!

Now I want to see a Star Rodimus design that brings it full circle, though. That'll teach him.
 

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I still hope/wonder if the Core Class Monstructor remold is a thing or got cancelled. I really liked Dinoking, another Core Class combiner would be great for me, though I know it wasn't everyone's preference. At first when I saw T-Spark and the weird proportions for the individual components I thought that was where they might take it, but clearly it went in a far more expensive direction.

Pure Dream: Core Class Puzzler.
 

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I would love to get a new Powermaster OP with this as a remold!

I still hope/wonder if the Core Class Monstructor remold is a thing or got cancelled. I really liked Dinoking, another Core Class combiner would be great for me, though I know it wasn't everyone's preference. At first when I saw T-Spark and the weird proportions for the individual components I thought that was where they might take it, but clearly it went in a far more expensive direction.

Pure Dream: Core Class Puzzler.

It wasn't long ago at all that the team gave us the ol' wink-and-nod and "hinted" that Monstructor was definitely on the way.
 

Sabrblade

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I'm still surprised no one's made a New Rodimus out of the Kingdom Inferno mold yet.
 
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lastmaximal

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I would love to get a new Powermaster OP with this as a remold!
Aside from just being his own mold, this is the best arrangement for New Rodimus in my mind. It'd be like the POTP one except better executed (making the arms part of the trailer would help a LOT).

Have the Ginrai side be a slightly flatter torso and the spoiler pack be able to flip up and around to cover whichever torso isn't being used. Then when he combines with the fire engine he turns into New Dadbodimus.


Just... Neither needs to be Star Convoy size, please. Even Commander class is a push.
 

LordGigaIce

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There's no NEED for behind-the-scenes anything, which is what makes it a nice gesture for them to offer it anyway in the first place.
I find myself both agreeing and disagreeing.

On one hand you're right, none of this matters or even really affects our spending habits. If we like a thing then knowing a few behind the scenes tidbits, or potentially knowing it was coming a year or two out due to tell all interviews, won't change much.

On the other hand... I find the general vibe of the present team much more agreeable than the past. Be it Archer just having a different outlook, or maybe being scared straight due to the TFW/TFormers drama, he and his team had very... I don't wanna say confrontational vibes... but very stonewall-y vibes?

You can say "oh different time and place" and you aren't wrong, but having experienced both I'd much rather have a team that will say two years out "oh we're planning this character because fans have wanted him for years and we found a slot" and "so here's a peak in how the development of this figure shaped up."

There's an openness and willingness to talk to fans on their own terms that the other team just didn't have, and I appreciate that greatly about the current team.

Because yeah, none of this is serious. Which works in the other direction too, because since it's not... the "we can't comment on that at this time" answers we used to get come off as silly in retrospect.

Fans who think they know stuff they don't, and general entitled fans, are always annoying but I'd rather not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
 


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