Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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It could also be malicious compliance. Most of the people working there aren't new hires, after all. I know if I were working there and Trump just became my boss, I'd immediately make it my mission to interpret any vague orders in the way that makes the boss looks as bad as possible, without actually doing anything I suspect he'd disapprove of enough to fire me.
If this is in any way true, I wholeheartedly support this kind of shenanigans.
 

Corvus

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wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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The US retains the ability to remotely kill the software on the f-35s. The US also cannot be trusted, and has threated to invade multiple allied, sovereign nations. Did trump honestly think the world would keep buying military hardware from them?
 

Anonymous X

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I don’t really follow this sort of thing, but isn’t the F-35 a massively overpriced white elephant anyway?

(Thinking back, Thrust in TF Armada was an F-35. That was over twenty years ago. Shows how long these pieces of military hardware take to get in service, given they’re only being rolled out now.)
 

KidTDragon

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Living through history is ****ing exhausting.
 

Dekafox

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Reminds me of this post I was reading yesterday, which introduced a (supposedly) relatively new term called Competitive Authoritarianism, though tbf he makes it clear also that he did not create the term - it goes back to some stuff written before Trump's inauguration and used Hungary's situation as its initial model.

 

Xaaron

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There is no future for Republicans. Trump is the only thing holding them together as anything resembling a coalition. Eight years of looking for someone able to match his energy has failed. Trump's inevitable death will be a murder-suicide pact for the GOP.

There is no future for Democrats. They lack the ability to inspire the people. Their options are to cling to a framework that has already failed, or try to be more Trump-like and authoritarian against their "enemies", which they lack the competence, drive, and/or chutzpah to make work.

The bright future for America is a cross-party coalition that rejects R and D tribalism and forges something new that a majority can agree on. But both sides are so divided, so petulant, and so untrusting of one another, that its unrealistic to expect such a positive change in the near future without an even stronger catalyst.

The dark future for America is complete anarchy once people openly accept that no system exists that really controls them in any way.

The median is maybe we dissolve into 50 independent countries if people pretend they're still willing to accept State law after the federal government falls apart, but the cognitive dissonance to believe that is already structurally unsound.

What is government when people refuse to be governed?
 

Axaday

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(Thinking back, Thrust in TF Armada was an F-35. That was over twenty years ago. Shows how long these pieces of military hardware take to get in service, given they’re only being rolled out now.)

They have been in use for a decade.
 

Axaday

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There is no future for Republicans. Trump is the only thing holding them together as anything resembling a coalition. Eight years of looking for someone able to match his energy has failed. Trump's inevitable death will be a murder-suicide pact for the GOP.

There is no future for Democrats. They lack the ability to inspire the people. Their options are to cling to a framework that has already failed, or try to be more Trump-like and authoritarian against their "enemies", which they lack the competence, drive, and/or chutzpah to make work.

The bright future for America is a cross-party coalition that rejects R and D tribalism and forges something new that a majority can agree on. But both sides are so divided, so petulant, and so untrusting of one another, that its unrealistic to expect such a positive change in the near future without an even stronger catalyst.

The dark future for America is complete anarchy once people openly accept that no system exists that really controls them in any way.

The median is maybe we dissolve into 50 independent countries if people pretend they're still willing to accept State law after the federal government falls apart, but the cognitive dissonance to believe that is already structurally unsound.

What is government when people refuse to be governed?
The parties are organizations whose job is to win elections. The GOP is enjoying its success right now. The DNC is think-tanking and analyzing statistics. They will look for an exciting candidate to get behind in 2028 and they will adjust their platform as they deem necessary to win more elections. Remember, the parties themselves don't care about policies. They choose the policies and positions that will give them an advantage. You are happily, and also sadly, mistaken if you think these two organizations are going to fall apart.
 

Steevy Maximus

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I don’t really follow this sort of thing, but isn’t the F-35 a massively overpriced white elephant anyway?

(Thinking back, Thrust in TF Armada was an F-35. That was over twenty years ago. Shows how long these pieces of military hardware take to get in service, given they’re only being rolled out now.)
Pretty much. The F-35 is the latest attempt by DoD office chairs to "standardize" their primary fighter platform across all branches (like the F-4 Phantom), but is years and billions of dollars overrun.

I mean, if anyone in government was actually serious about addressing waste in spending? Try holding these multibillion corporations accountable and levy penalties when they fail to deliver. I don't keep paying a contractor to work on my house if he's months behind and asking for another round of as much money as he quoted for the job to begin with, y'know?
Yeah, you got me. I owe you a coke.
A bottle or a line?
 

Pocket

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I mean, if anyone in government was actually serious about addressing waste in spending? Try holding these multibillion corporations accountable and levy penalties when they fail to deliver. I don't keep paying a contractor to work on my house if he's months behind and asking for another round of as much money as he quoted for the job to begin with, y'know?
I'm increasingly of the opinion that governments should stop doing business with private companies entirely and instead establish their own owned-and-operated production pipelines for everything they need.
 


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