Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Not really, there are roughly equal numbers of liberal and conservative provinces right now. Assuming the power structures would be transferred over 1:1, the senate would get bigger, but the ratio wouldn't really change.

The first election AFTER the annexation... well, probably too much open rebellion and combat to bother holding elections. Wouldn't be surprised if there was martial law till the rest of nato rolled in.
 

Axaday

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I don't pay your country nearly the attention that you pay mine. Are they conservative like Trump or are they just conservative for Canadians?

No nasty skeletons!
 
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Ungnome

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Probably not a good idea to ask, Axaday. Canada might have a reputation for niceness, but they have some pretty nasty skeletons in their closet
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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To answer the question you CLEARLY didn't ask, axaday: they are conservatives like trump. If you listen to pierre poilievre for a few minutes, you can hear him trying desperately to be fat and orange.
 

Ungnome

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Don't make me pull out the history book. I'LL DO IT! I'VE DONE IT BEFORE! Remember Canada is the offspring of the British Empire, just like the US is. They are just better at hiding it.
 

Axaday

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Don't make me pull out the history book. I'LL DO IT! I'VE DONE IT BEFORE! Remember Canada is the offspring of the British Empire, just like the US is. They are just better at hiding it.
Well...they had ample opportunity to spring off, but actually they waited and waited until they just dropped off.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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Fair enough, we(the US) loudly told our parents off and ran away from home. Canada stayed around until the British Empire was so disgusted with them they kicked them out.(Which is saying something given the crap the British Empire did)

(I know that's not why Canada got it's Independence, I'm just being a little silly)
 

Ironbite4

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Don't make me pull out the history book. I'LL DO IT! I'VE DONE IT BEFORE! Remember Canada is the offspring of the British Empire, just like the US is. They are just better at hiding it.
No...no they are not.

Ironbite-like that facade of politeness just breaks away when you ask about the Natives.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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I bet they can't wait for Trump to ruin whatever economy they have too.

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Anonymous X

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Canada has loads of Trumpish conservatives, unfortunately. Current Premiers of Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario and Quebec are right-wing populists. The country has had some very rightwing figures. I mean, while Canada got as far as having (very weak) universal healthcare, more rights for (some) minorities codified and so on, it’s still a North American country wedded to the neoliberal model.
 

Axaday

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"When the Leopards Eating Peoples' Faces Party repeatedly said that they were going to eat our faces, we didn't think they meant our faces!"
That looks pretty messy to me. They quote a local leader that wanted the deal, but USW top leadership don't want it. Biden doesn't want it. Selling the iconic US Steel to a Japanese company is not something that bothers me. The money moves how it moves, but they still operate here, still pay taxes here, still hire workers and buy supplies here, can still probably be invested in by Americans. Biden says it is a national security risk, but I don't fear Japan very much. To me it is a nothing sandwich, but it has all kinds of buzzwords attached on both sides.

If I were Trump (hoo boy!!) I wouldn't have taken a position on it until one had to be taken.
 

Rhinox

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That doesn't mean we have to rewrite our entire moral system to redefine every awful thing that's about to happen to us as Good, Actually just because the people who voted for him might be among those who will suffer.

I'm not so far gone that I'll welcome someone's plan to blow up my house with me in it just because someone I don't like is also in there.
I feel your analogy is flawed. Let me see if I can clarify my point.

I've not rewritten anything. My moral code remains the same. What has changed is my tolerance. I no longer give cursory politeness when confronted by a MAGAT. I do not tolerate the casual rudeness aimed my direction or at the people I care about and love. I am now very quick to tell someone they can hug off and cut them wholesale from my life.

As to the second, the house is on fire. And those of us who disagree with Trump and refute everything he stands for have been told to expect no help, no rescue, nothing. We're being left to burn. Personally, I'm hoping it burns his followers just as much, if not more.
To use your metaphor, our houses are already being blown up. We cannot stop that. I'm looking forward to THEIR houses taking massive collateral damage when they trigger the bomb that takes mine.

Nothing about what is going to happen is good. That's just sarcasm and fatalism. What I think is good is that more and more Trump voters are realizing that their worlds are also fucked because they ignored literally everyone with any credibility and voted him and his ilk in. And I relish that dawning realization. That moment of comprehension when their eyes are finally opened to the fact that neither he nor anyone with him gives a damn about anyone else. That they compromised their morals, their principles, their religious fervor, all in service of Judas.
That epiphany, that moment it all clicks in their head as the blinders fall and they see their houses are also on fire, that is what I enjoy. The schadenfreude is delicious.
 


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