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Wyoming - 1 electoral vote per 192k
Vermont - 1 electoral vote per 214k
Alaska - 1 electoral vote per 257k
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Florida - 1 electoral vote per 718k
Texas - 1 electoral vote per 729k
California - 1 electoral vote per 732k
Its beyond ridiculous that the average voter in Wyoming has almost 4x the say in the decision of who becomes president than a voter in California. Granted, both states are 'all or nothing' states when it comes to electors, which skews the numbers considerably. If electoral votes were simply split by district in every state like they are in Nebraska and Maine, gerrymandering aside, I doubt Trump would have won in 2016. Still it IS time to abolish the whole electoral college thing. It was a failed idea by rich landowners in the 18th century and needs to go.
Vermont - 1 electoral vote per 214k
Alaska - 1 electoral vote per 257k
...
Florida - 1 electoral vote per 718k
Texas - 1 electoral vote per 729k
California - 1 electoral vote per 732k
Its beyond ridiculous that the average voter in Wyoming has almost 4x the say in the decision of who becomes president than a voter in California. Granted, both states are 'all or nothing' states when it comes to electors, which skews the numbers considerably. If electoral votes were simply split by district in every state like they are in Nebraska and Maine, gerrymandering aside, I doubt Trump would have won in 2016. Still it IS time to abolish the whole electoral college thing. It was a failed idea by rich landowners in the 18th century and needs to go.
Ohio has several large cities, including Cincinnati, Columbus and Toledo in addition to Cleveland.
Yes there is. You vote. Blue up and down.
Even if you wind up with trump as president again: you can gimp him by stacking the other two branches with democrats, races that usually ignored in presidential years. Sure, you get trump term two: but instead of indescribable horror and a dictatorship: you get four years of nothing happening. Which, I might add, is something the ENTIRE WORLD will also happily take over america literally destroying the global economy and what little international peace we have.
And oh yeah: Trump still doesn't have the means to win. Mathematically: trump has already lost. Which is why him and his lickspittles are already setting themselves up for the "stolen" byline again. He's ******* underperforming in primary races where he's running uncontested! In every election, except that first one... (damnit.) republicans have always and consistently underperformed. He had razor thin margins the first ******* time, and this time he does not have apathetic democratic voters, and undecideds going "eh, what the hell". His core demographic has only shrunk. He can't win enough new people to overcome attrition.
Vote, just ******* vote. Trump. Will. Lose.
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Here, just... watch this.
wonko serves the best hopium.
You seem to be missing my point.
In EVERY local election where I am, the Democratic victory is all-but assured, and has been for decades at this point.
At best, this is good advice for people who live elsewhere.
There are a LOT of polls that disagree with you.
What Californians and other solid-blue-staters should do is vote for the most far-left candidates they can in the primaries. It's too late for that advice to be useful, mind you.
Oh, and Ohio is officially a red state at this point as far as I'm concerned. There's an election for Senate or something this year, and I swear it's either literally just two Republicans running against each other or they're trying their best to pretend to be. Either way it's a terrible sign.
Oh, and Ohio is officially a red state at this point as far as I'm concerned. There's an election for Senate or something this year, and I swear it's either literally just two Republicans running against each other or they're trying their best to pretend to be. Either way it's a terrible sign.
The same polls that have been predicting a red wave since trumps midterms? The same polls that have routinely been WRONG?
Okay: please listen. Not just you G.B., everyone. The polls are WRONG. A large portion of the voting population are functionally not reachable for the sake of the pollsters, and are more and more relying on the ones whom ARE... and the ones whom are reachable are ageing boomers and hard core republicans. This has been a growing problem since people started switching to cell phones as primary communication, and gotten worse as the majority of the population switched to texting over phone calls.
The media is complicit because no one will pay attention to the election coverage if it's not a horse race, a nail biter, a life or death existential ******* crisis. Think about it: when was the last time mainstream media didn't say "This is the most important election"? They're finally right; a broken clock, after all.
The polls are wrong, they will continue to be wrong, and the democrats will continue to powerfully over-perform based on those polls. The polls are wrong. Don't believe their lies: look at the actual voter returns for real information.
Check your voter status. Help your mutuals do it too. Help everyone get to the polls. Vote democrat all the way down: and the rest will take of itself, because the polls. Are. Wrong. Just ******* vote.
And here's the thing. I live in Kansas. My vote means exactly jack jive in the presidential election.
. . . . and after viewing the thread after this reply, I see I am late to the party. My bad.
So you're setting good habits for future elections? You're participating in your civic doody regardless of outcome?
And that attitude is why poor leaders get elected. Your vote DOES matter, even if it only matters in canceling out the vote of some psycho asshole. No one snowflake is to blame for the avalanche.
No, it's not the attitude, it's the electoral college.
Again, we're not talking about the rest of the ticket, where things matter. In presidential elections our votes mean nothing if we're not in a battleground state. California will always go blue, Kansas will always go red, that's the way it goes and its not changing any time soon unless the electoral college is relegated to the dustbin where it belongs.
My vote doesn't cancel out anyone's when it comes to the president. It literally does not matter. I need to stress, it's not an attitude, it's not defeatist, it is the reality of a voting system where only a few states have any real say and mine isn't one of them.
Sometimes it's enough just to narrow the gap and give them a scare. For example...
Which is why part 2 screaming at your reps about the elimination of the electoral college. There's already movement to get it abolished, you are not alone in being tired of this fundamentally broken system.
Depressingly, that’s similar to how our elections work. Where I live it’s always a foregone conclusion, well, except this time my area is forecast to go non-Tory for the first time since 1922 due to the weird circumstances. It’s a very frustrating state of affairs, particularly as we don’t have a strict two-party system in Britain. Sort of.
The system isn't broken. This is exactly how it was designed to work. Which is all the more reason it should be torn down.