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Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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The issue is:
1) Embedded devices that run Windows run the same Windows as your regular PC, possibly without any services being turned off even. So if base Windows is modified, those will be too.
2) Airgapped devices can't go online to verify every time you log in, and if it's built into the -base operating system- then it doens't matter if anyone cares if its enforced.

Remember, this is aimed at the OS makers themselves! Not the hardware. And if they allow you to bypass it by those above methods, people will, and I fully expect that will be factored in whatever is built into these main OSes.

Secondly, as far as implementation, from what I was reading Congress is being very general and washing their hands of it. The bill is written so that it will go into force 1 year after assignment and requires the appropriate regulation agency to determine how to implement and enforce it - and I'm sure we all trust Trump's FTC will do this properly, right?

Really hoping this does die in committee, but with all the pushes lately on the state side too, I'm not counting on it.
 

CoffeeHorse

Hanging in there
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Council of Elders
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There's so many old computers out there that technically were made to be general purpose computers and theoretically can connect to the internet even if nothing works, so they would be caught in this bill's wording, but are still being used for actual work and can't just be replaced.

There is no way to implement this bill as worded without causing chaos. Wall Street will scream louder than Facebook and this will go away.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
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And that's without the enormous potential for malicious compliance on the part of the regulation writers.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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FOSS devs will just move everything overseas where this regulation can't touch them. Contributing to a FOSS project isn't the same thing as distributing it. Good luck getting a foreign power to enforce the fines this bill would implement. It will just hurt software development in the US(and other countries that decide to implement similar stupid laws). The bad part is that the bios could, under their terms, be considered an OS....
 

NovaSaber

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Wouldn't this also make literally everything (including what the government uses) far less secure due to the additional checks with outside verification?
Especially if they require it for things that aren't supposed to be connected to the internet at all.

Though, considering that the ID verification system that the IRS and Social Security already use isn't actually run by the government itself, I guess we already know they don't care about that.
 

CoffeeHorse

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Council of Elders
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They might care. The IRS and Social Security probably don't run that system themselves because their computers can't do it.

And it's not even their fault that they don't upgrade. They have decades and decades and decades of records that are probably in some proprietary format that Microsoft Office can't read. A lot of companies are in that same boat, and this bill would ban their computers.
 

Ironbite4

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Hey remember when everyone got their panties in a twist because some Republican judge in Virginia said the referendum that passed to redistrict Virginia to put some more Dem seats in the house was null and void? Yeah turns out, not so null and void.


Ironbite-boom
 

MrBlud

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Teufel

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Turns out "has a Nazi tattoo" might be a pretty good heuristic for weeding out bad candidates after all.

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A woman who dated Maine U.S. Senate candidate Graham Platner says he forced her to have sex with him nearly five years ago despite her repeated objections, an allegation Platner denies.

The woman, a 41-year-old Maine resident named Jenny Racicot, detailed the alleged incident to POLITICO in three interviews over the past two weeks. POLITICO also spoke with a man Racicot dated and confided in the years after the alleged incident, and reviewed documents, including emails between Racicot and her therapist and messages between Racicot and an acquaintance whom she warned against getting involved with Platner years before he ran for office.

Racicot previously described “reckless” and “unsettling” behavior by Platner to The New York Times, but says she didn’t go public with the specific assault claim because she didn’t want to be known as a rape victim.
Racicot said she later felt compelled to go public about her experience because the reaction to the Times story was dominated by controversy about another woman, Lyndsey Fifield, who alleged Platner mistreated her and faced attacks because of her ties to the Republican Party. (Contacted by POLITICO, Fifield stood by the allegations she made to the Times and declined to comment further.)
“My part of the story was just a read-over,” Racicot said in an interview. “And the story was Lyndsey, and the accusations of her being politically motivated.”
Racicot said she was torn over coming forward in part because she agrees with Platner politically.

Racicot also shared details about the alleged assault to the man she dated after Platner, who she began dating in 2022. The man, who was granted anonymity out of concern for his personal privacy, told POLITICO that Racicot had told him in bits and pieces about a bad experience with Platner before confiding the full details of what had happened in 2023. His account of what Racicot told him about the incident matched what Racicot told POLITICO.

Racicot shared with POLITICO a series of private Facebook messages she exchanged with an acquaintance in 2023, about a year and a half after the alleged assault and well before Platner launched his political career, in which she cautioned the acquaintance against getting involved with Platner. In the messages, Racicot said she had “ended up in a bad situation with him,” describing Platner as “consensually careless” and saying he “doesn’t listen to you when drunk.” Reached by POLITICO, the acquaintance said she received the messages but declined to comment; POLITICO granted her anonymity at her request to protect her privacy in her Maine community.


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A flood of Democratic senators joined Schumer and Gillibrand in condemning Platner. Some of his biggest backers — Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.), and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) — called on him to exit the race, as did Sens. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), Jon Ossoff (D-Ga.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Adam Schiff (D-Calif.). Another staunch supporter and potential 2028 presidential hopeful, Arizona Sen. Ruben Gallego, withdrew his endorsement. Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.), who had expressed support for Platner last month, said Monday he “cannot support his candidacy.”

Our Revolution, the progressive organization formed to continue the goals of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-Vt.) 2016 presidential campaign, said it is withdrawing its endorsement and calling on Platner to drop out. Sanders himself has yet to comment on the news.

The money that would be crucial to Democrats’ hopes of flipping the seat also immediately dried up. Key outside groups organizing on his behalf, including VoteVets, which elevates former veterans as Democratic candidates, and the progressive good-governance group End Citizens United, rescinded their endorsements Monday.
 

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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So, instead of embracing candidates that can actually win elections, the Democratic "Centrists" (i.e. right-wing) are wringing their hands that their do-nothing capitulation ideology is going to be diluted by "socialists" who feel that the government should work for the people and not just bend over when Trump needs his boots shined.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/...erate-democratic-party-battlegrounds-00975000
 

Deathy G1

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I liked Platner's platform and would've voted for him in November, but I definitely didn't like him as a person. Hoping that Troy Jackson gets the nomination now, as he has similar views and seems like a pretty decent person in comparison.
 

Anonymous X

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Wait, there was a DEMOCRAT candidate with a Nazi SS tattoo?! How did he defend the existence of the tattoo? Did he claim it was just a ‘Roman’ tattoo? That he was an undercover cop at some point? Bizarre.
 

Deathy G1

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Wait, there was a DEMOCRAT candidate with a Nazi SS tattoo?! How did he defend the existence of the tattoo? Did he claim it was just a ‘Roman’ tattoo? That he was an undercover cop at some point? Bizarre.
He claimed that he didn't know what it meant and it was part of a bunch of mistakes he made as "a stupid kid." We Mainers were stupid and believed him (I am still way more politically gullible than I would like to be).
 

Thylacine 2000

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Wait, there was a DEMOCRAT candidate with a Nazi SS tattoo?! How did he defend the existence of the tattoo? Did he claim it was just a ‘Roman’ tattoo? That he was an undercover cop at some point? Bizarre.

He claimed not to have known what it was at the time (though multiple people explicitly contradicted this). But it didn't matter. Before the tattoo became public, people called him "the Maine Mamdani" because of his attitude and stances and they still should, the tattoo is the most (literally) superficial problem with him. He talks like every other terminally online DSA crank, and until there was an accusation of actual full rape, he was comfortably ahead in the polls.

Fascists and race-cranks can pretty effortlessly infiltrate leftist movements if they just recite the proper vocabulary list.
 
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