Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
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U.S., U.K. among 9 countries pausing funding to UNRWA amid allegations 12 employees were part of Oct. 7 attack
The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East said it terminated the contracts of the people alleged to have participated in the incursion.
UNRWA's continued existence to this day is perverse. There's one UN agency for all non-Palestinian refugees, and UNRWA for Palestinians alone, to maintain dependency and infinite rent-seeking.
I still cannot figure out what the proof is that UNRWA workers committed October 7 attacks. If it actually happened, then Israel is guilty of not vetting their own security when they always demand migration rosters in and out of Gaza, which would not surprise me given Netanyahu's long-running Hamas stratagem.
Unfortunately, Israel has won the propaganda war over the previous week to drown out the ruling it is plausibly committing genocide against Gaza. Not enough discussion is happening about it now.
Unfortunately, Israel has won the propaganda war over the previous week to drown out the ruling it is plausibly committing genocide against Gaza. Not enough discussion is happening about it now.
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The evidence of UNRWA collaboration with Hamas came from captured computers, interrogations, surveillance camera pictures, and linking Gazans found dead in Israel on Oct. 7th and thereafter to UNRWA jobs. One of the released Israeli hostages swears he was held captive by an UNRWA teacher. I'm not sure the average layman will ever see the full write-up, but it was enough to convince the governments of the US, UK, EU, Japan, Germany, France, Italy, Sweden, Switzerland, Canada, Netherlands, Austria, Australia, Romania, Estonia, New Zealand (often very anti-Israel), and Iceland (typically HUGELY anti-Israel and more than a little antisemitic as well).
As for worker visas from Gaza - you won't have to worry about those ever again, and likely not for the West Bank either.
The ICJ ruling should please no one and there's an enormous amount of unrefined copium being slung around. There was no finding of Israel committing genocide, nor even an attempt at making such a finding or beginning an investigation, and no orders for them to cease operations. On the other side, the case wasn't thrown out altogether, as Israel had demanded, and the very suggestion makes them look utterly terrible and could be used as a pretext for diplomatic pullback. Hamas was ordered to release all hostages immediately (lol), Israel was ordered to take steps to make sure no genocide happened (which they are already doing), ordered to allow in humanitarian aid (also already happening), and ordered to investigate and prosecute any government officials who do issue calls for mass murder and genocide (such prosecutions would be a wholesale improvement and might even lead to the collapse of the Israeli government, inshallah). They are supposed to report back in a month, by which time Hamas will not have released the hostages and it's anyone's guess how the court will take that.
The most disgustingly ironic thing about the ICJ case is that - as I've written here repeatedly - the whole reason the Oct. 7th attack was possible was due to the shattering of Israeli society over Netanyahu's judicial overhaul. Netanyahu and his allies posed this as "returning power to the people" against an unaccountable permanent deep-state court system established by longtime Supreme Court justice Aharon Barak. You should look up some of the accusations the right-wingers launched at Aharon Barak. He was their George Soros and Hunter Biden all rolled up into one.
And when Israel gets pulled in front of the ICJ, who does Netanyahu appoint to speak on their behalf and legally argue against the charges? THE VERY SAME BARAK.
As for worker visas from Gaza - you won't have to worry about those ever again, and likely not for the West Bank either.
The ICJ ruling should please no one and there's an enormous amount of unrefined copium being slung around. There was no finding of Israel committing genocide, nor even an attempt at making such a finding or beginning an investigation, and no orders for them to cease operations. On the other side, the case wasn't thrown out altogether, as Israel had demanded, and the very suggestion makes them look utterly terrible and could be used as a pretext for diplomatic pullback. Hamas was ordered to release all hostages immediately (lol), Israel was ordered to take steps to make sure no genocide happened (which they are already doing), ordered to allow in humanitarian aid (also already happening), and ordered to investigate and prosecute any government officials who do issue calls for mass murder and genocide (such prosecutions would be a wholesale improvement and might even lead to the collapse of the Israeli government, inshallah). They are supposed to report back in a month, by which time Hamas will not have released the hostages and it's anyone's guess how the court will take that.
The most disgustingly ironic thing about the ICJ case is that - as I've written here repeatedly - the whole reason the Oct. 7th attack was possible was due to the shattering of Israeli society over Netanyahu's judicial overhaul. Netanyahu and his allies posed this as "returning power to the people" against an unaccountable permanent deep-state court system established by longtime Supreme Court justice Aharon Barak. You should look up some of the accusations the right-wingers launched at Aharon Barak. He was their George Soros and Hunter Biden all rolled up into one.
And when Israel gets pulled in front of the ICJ, who does Netanyahu appoint to speak on their behalf and legally argue against the charges? THE VERY SAME BARAK.
Israel-Gaza war: Unknown fate of six-year-old Hind Rajab trapped under fire
Six-year-old Hind was last heard from trapped in a car surrounded by bodies - then the line went dead.
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Be interesting to see how this pans out.
IDF reveals: Al-Jazeera journalist by day, Hamas commander by night
IDF reveals: Al-Jazeera journalist by day, Hamas commander by night
Local MP had some angry protesters surround his house due to his stance on the Israel/Palestine conflict. Even noticed by the national newspapers (including this terrible tabloid). Apparently he’s considered “pro genocide” by the protestors for not calling for Israel to be abolished, or some such bollocks.
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MAYBE that was not the best choice of words here...
My boss' family (what's left of them) is finally safe in Egypt. However, he told me that the Egyptian organisations (companies?) that "helped" them were nothing more than human traffickers, as they had to pay a king's ransom for the privilege...
Japanese student urges Gaza cease-fire as U.S. universities quiet dissent
A Japanese graduate student at Yale University is calling for Israel to end its protracted military campaign in Gaza at a time of high tensions over the issue on U.S. campuses, with prestigious universities under pressure from donors and politicians to suppress anti-Israel protests.
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A few recent items of note:
-Egypt is building a giant refugee camp near the Rafah border, able to house over 100,000 people:
-Israeli police minister Itamar Ben-Gvir banned Israeli Arabs from visiting the Al-Aqsa mosque during Ramadan, and the rest of the government overruled him and restored their visitation access:
-U.S. Air Force operative Aaron Bushnell burned himself alive in protest outside the Israeli embassy a few days ago. He had stated on Reddit that there are no Israeli civilians and they are all fair game to be killed:
-Egypt is building a giant refugee camp near the Rafah border, able to house over 100,000 people:
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-Israeli police minister Itamar Ben-Gvir banned Israeli Arabs from visiting the Al-Aqsa mosque during Ramadan, and the rest of the government overruled him and restored their visitation access:
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-U.S. Air Force operative Aaron Bushnell burned himself alive in protest outside the Israeli embassy a few days ago. He had stated on Reddit that there are no Israeli civilians and they are all fair game to be killed:
Egypt's "camp" is scarily reminiscent of a concentration camp, with those walls. My boss' family just paid a king's ransom to Egyptian "human traffickers" to live there.
Nice to see that egypt went from "You got three days to get out of my country" to "Sure... You can stay. *evil smirk* You can stay as long as you want!".
It's not an improvement.
It's not an improvement.
Israel-Hamas war: Dozens killed in attack on crowd waiting for aid, Gaza health officials say
Follow NBC News for live updates and the latest coverage of the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza where over 30,000 have died since Oct. 7, health officials say.
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Must have been a dozen Hamas in that crowd.
Ironbite-justify it.
Israel-Hamas war: Dozens killed in attack on crowd waiting for aid, Gaza health officials say
Follow NBC News for live updates and the latest coverage of the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza where over 30,000 have died since Oct. 7, health officials say.
Must have been a dozen Hamas in that crowd.
Ironbite-justify it.
Maybe all the injured can be taken to the Al-Ahli hospital - you know, the one Hamas declared Israel blew up and killed 500 people and the entire world media instantly believed them, with no verification. The exact same thing is happening now.
Learn to spot bullshit and speculation. It took Israel over a month to count the dead from Oct.7.
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I didn't say prove it. I said justify it. Justify a country committing war crimes over and over and over again and we're just supposed to accept that.
Ironbite-justify it. I didn't accept this in 2002, I'm not gonna accept this now.
Ironbite-justify it. I didn't accept this in 2002, I'm not gonna accept this now.
You're demanding someone justify an event that you acknowledge might not have happened. That's sure something.
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CNN says it happened. MSNBC says it happened. Hugging Faux Noise will say it happened. And yet people say "Yeah no those aren't reputable enough."
Ironbite-what is it about this one country that justifies war crimes?