What stupid thing did the GOP say or do this time? Episode 3!

KidTDragon

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Still, it's refreshing to see one of the fomenters of gun violence be the victim of their rhetoric instead of a school full of children for once.


(This happened yesterday, but got drowned out by Kirk's shooting.)
 

MegaMagnus

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All these people celebrating Charlie Kirk . Why ? It changes nothing if the shooter wanted to make some political statement take a flight to Russia and pay Vladimir Putin a visit
 

Rhinox

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The dumb conspiracy theories have gotten REALLY out of hand around here lately.

The reported shot isn't particularly crazy. Many militaries expect soldiers to be able to make hits at more than twice that distance using iron sights.

With a magnified optic zeroed for approximately that range, firing from a braced/rested/bi-poded position it would have been a fairly simple hit for anyone with a base level of rifle experience.
After speaking with my friend who is a trained sniper, he also confirmed that with the right equipment, this isn't a particularly difficult shot to a trained party.
With that said, I still wouldn't put it past Trump, but this is something that doesn't require military training. My own crappy shooting ability did bias me towards the difficulty of this shot.
 

The Predaking

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Saw this posted on FB. Maybe if folks see it, they will start to form some of that new emotion, Empathy.
 

Rhinox

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There's an op ed in USA today from a conservative whining about how she feels unsafe and targeted now. She can go hug herself.
 

Rhinox

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They’re pushing exactly the same narrative in our media. Even though gun ownership isn’t a thing here, and the last victim of political violence in Britain wasn’t a right-winger.
Yeah. I'm not at all interested in the tears and cries to 'tone down' the rhetoric after years of hearing it from their side. One person, one ******* person that they agree with hits the 'find out' stage and now it's a problem. hug off with that. Where's the outrage, where's the condemnation, where is anything other than smirks and bullshit when the democratic senator and her family were assassinated in their homes?
 

NovaSaber

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Saw this posted on FB. Maybe if folks see it, they will start to form some of that new emotion, Empathy.
An emotion that Charlie Kirk said he hated, which means he shouldn't get any.

"Political violence is never acceptable" is not a principle I disagree with, but if "some gun deaths are just the price to pay for letting weapons be easy to get" counts as political speedh, then those gun deaths were political violence.

So I reject any notion that Charlie Kirk did not perpetrate more political violence than what happened to him.

Also I cannot think of any "religious" view which would be easier to justify than calling this karma.
 

Corvus

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As I said over on Bluesky, I don't believe in karma or any form of cosmic justice, but sometimes people do reap what they sow.
 

Rhinox

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I'd like to remind the world that Kirk was in the middle of giving a smarmy, smart assed answer to questions about gun violence. He died with a smirk on his lips, thinking he was 'owning the libs' by dismissing their concerns about shootings when he got his.
The manner of his death is such an amazing moment of karmic comeuppance that if this was a fictional book the author would be told to write something more realistic because this is beyond the pale.
 

Corvus

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If hypocrisy were carbon monoxide, every one of these people would have kicked the proverbial bucket long ago.
 

Pocket

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There's always a chance to pull back from the brink. Everybody forgets how bad 2004 was, because we got past it. But it does feel like we are at the brink.
Speaking as someone who literally did a comic in the school paper along those lines, you'll have to explain to me how it was anywhere close to this. Most of us were fresh out of high school and had never witnessed widespread backlash against a President's actions before, and were now living in liberal echo chambers that made Bush seem a lot more widely and deeply despised than he actually was. Trump was at least as widely and deeply despised as that before he even won the 2016 election, and has done nothing to improve that public image since. And meanwhile, he and his fellow Republicans have been mask-off for just as long about wanting their opposition wiped off the map.
 

Rhinox

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In all honesty, 2004 was nothing compared to this. There was no compromised Supreme Court, there was no illegal deployment of the National Guard. There is no talk of an illegal 3rd term. We are well beyond 2004.
 

Pale Rider

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Yeah, I'm struggling to understand how 2004 is even in the conversation. Did I slide into another reality in which something significant by today's standards actually happened back then?
 


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