UK politics thread – meet the new boss, same as the old boss

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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The problem being that shutting down congress long enough shuts down the government anyway: it's a neat idea but it hasn't removed or changed the weaponization of budget bills or government shutdowns.

Especially given how badly americans run elections: imagine having to do like 3 in 10 months because you can't get a ******* budget passed, but keeping voting in the same fuckwits who can't pass the budget.
 

Pocket

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Yeah that's the other problem, Israel is a parliamentary system where the only people actually being voted for are their legislators, and I assume they're like the UK and Canada where elections regularly get scheduled on an ad-hoc basis by the people currently in charge rather than on a fixed schedule. We don't even vote for all of our Senators the same years. If you triggered a special election for all members of both houses at the same time, when do they come up for reelection next?
 

Axaday

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Israel resets a 4 year clock every time they have an election. And man. I was confused about where to post about this, but I didn't think I put it HERE.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Canada has fixed election dates. We didn't used to until fairly recently, but our recent politicians proved they couldn't be trusted with the ability to bring down the government. Canada was pulling an election every 16 months for a while after the turn of the century. The literal and absolute minimum allowed time before some god damn yokel would scream "no confidence". Quebec was literally doing the same thing.

So they switched to a fixed cycle.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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The world will be better off when Trump finally kicks off.
He has singlehandedly driven the world back over 30 years.
 

MrBlud

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Don’t give him that kind of power.

Putin is really the person responsible and helped along (either willingly or unwittingly) by our Billionaire owned corporate media.
 

Rhinox

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Don’t give him that kind of power.

Putin is really the person responsible and helped along (either willingly or unwittingly) by our Billionaire owned corporate media.
Putin hasn't pushed the end of DEI or forced other nations to remove their own anti discrimination efforts.
Trump has been a less than secret racist for as long as he's been in the public spotlight. His efforts on this alone, much less lumping in his distain for LGBTQ+ feels like a personal bent on Putin's desire for destabilization.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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Trump is following Putin's lead, at least on the LGBTQ+ stuff. Putin pushed LGBTQ+ rights back in Russia, giving Trump a roadmap to do it here. Putin's Russia made it illegal to 'promote' homosexuality back in 2013, 9 years before Florida passed their 'don't say gay' bill. They also passed a law in 2023 stripping the ability to change one's gender markers on government documents that had been put in place back in 1997, that's nearly two years before Trump's executive orders. Putin wants that stuff just as much as Trump does.
 

MrBlud

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All the stuff Ungnome said, plus Putin helped Trump get elected too.

He also pushed for Brexit and is continuing to push knobs like Farage and making Labour Tory-lite to further destabilize Britain.

Don’t get me wrong, Trump is a monster but he’s also an idiot.

Putin is a monster as well but a very intelligent one. He’s come closer to destroying “The West” than the USSR dared dream.
 


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