What if its the Autobots building the Mausoleum ship and launching it into the stars, and the Quintessons seeing it.
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What if its the Autobots building the Mausoleum ship and launching it into the stars, and the Quintessons seeing it.
Fascinated by the implications of this statement in light of Power Rangers being an adaptation of a franchise that very much did switch out the suits every year.
It was almost a pleasant surprise that when you look at the box for the roleplay Matrix of Leadership and there's only art and screenshots of Rodimus Prime opening the Matrix, and Optimus not on the box at all.
IDW also had an Optimus that couldn't handle going back to non-wartime conditions where he couldn't just do whatever he wanted, even if he felt it was right thing to do, and wound up illegally annexing Earth and violating other cybertronian laws because of it.
As for what the tease is for, at first I was certain it was somw kind of '86 follow-up or tie-in, but now I think it's just going to be a preview for the Energon Universe show. It's been just over a year since we started hearing rumors about that thing so they could potentially have a trailer ready for it by September.
Similarly, because of shows like Super Sentai where the heroes get swapped out and replaced by new ones every year, Japanese kids had already properly moved on from Convoy to Rodimus Convoy, and were confused by Convoy's permanent return at the end of Season 3. So, Takara killed him off again in the third episode of The Headmasters to get back to Rodimus Convoy so that he could pass the torch over to Fortress Maximus a few episodes later, getting back on track with the traditional pattern of new heroes succeeding old heroes that Japanese kids were familiar with. This is likewise why Powermaster Optimus Prime's toy became new-character Ginrai since Convoy was supposed to still be perma-dead at that point and not come back for a third time (by the time they did bring him back as Star Convoy, enough years had passed for Convoy nostalgia to kick in after having gone through Rodimus Convoy, Fortress Maximus, Metalhawk, Ginrai, Star Saber, and Dai Atlas; bringing him back during Rodimus Convoy's tenure was too soon for the Japanese).
Sounds like someone at Hasbro remembered Optimus saying he wasn't worthy of the Matrix in the movie.
I don't feel like quoting people rn but my distaste for this has nothing specifically to do with them (potentially) minimizing Rodimus Prime or whatever, it's just part of my broader dislike of when franchises come off like they're pandering to the most whiny parts of the fanbase?
I know it's not like remotely similar at all in terms of what is actually happening but it's kinda like how people complained so much about the original design of Sonic for the Sonic the Hedgehog movie, to the point where Paramount delayed the film by a few months to completely redesign Sonic so he'd look closer to his game appearance, and now people think if they complain enough, that's just something they can make happen when any movie or TV show starts getting promoted with designs they don't like (see also: people desperately trying to get Dreamworks to change the designs of Shrek et al for Shrek 5).
Honestly speaking usually my thoughts on the (rare) times where I do encounter someone who is still genuinely upset that they killed Optimus Prime and hates Rodimus Prime is basically the same as my response when I see people unironically spouting trukk not munky in the big 2026: why are you still complaining over this stuff decades later? Who cares, move on.
I know it's not like remotely similar at all in terms of what is actually happening but it's kinda like how people complained so much about the original design of Sonic for the Sonic the Hedgehog movie, to the point where Paramount delayed the film by a few months to completely redesign Sonic so he'd look closer to his game appearance, and now people think if they complain enough, that's just something they can make happen when any movie or TV show starts getting promoted with designs they don't like (see also: people desperately trying to get Dreamworks to change the designs of Shrek et al for Shrek 5).
Honestly speaking usually my thoughts on the (rare) times where I do encounter someone who is still genuinely upset that they killed Optimus Prime and hates Rodimus Prime is basically the same as my response when I see people unironically spouting trukk not munky in the big 2026: why are you still complaining over this stuff decades later? Who cares, move on.
"When you became Optimus Prime—when you assumed the title—the world didn't know the truth about Nova and Nominus and the rest. Back then, being a Prime meant demonstrating—no, actually—embodying certain standards of behavior... it meant decency and integrity and—and morality—and all sorts of things that chancers like me pretend are unfashionable because deep down they scare us... and they scare us because we try to live our lives by them but we can't. Well, guess what? You can. You can and you do—every day. Thanks to you, the word Prime still means decency and integrity and morality. Listen. The world will always need a Prime... but only if that Prime is you."
Rodimus to Optimus, IDW Transformers: Robots in Disguise #26
If you break it down, it's Rodimus admitting he sucks, to Optimus, and saying that Optimus is, indeed, the most special boy.
Eh, even regardless of how different it looked from the game design, that first movie Sonic design really did look hideous.
Not just any fandom is going to be able to get a studio to backpedal that hard. The Sonic fandom is something special.
Rodimus got a Commander before Optimus.
Rodimus got a Commander before Optimus.
Yeah, y'all remember the initial reactions to seeing the 2007 movie designs? Hasbro and Paramount stuck to their guns and doubled down on those designs in spite of the backlash.
And we have been cursed ever since....
Didn't Megatron get a design change based on fan feedback?
Megatron (Movie) - Transformers Wiki
In hindsight, I'm not 100% sure we had anything to do with that, since Hasbro got burned by last minute character redesigns with every single film.
nowadays they'll burn you alive for daring to criticize the bayformers designs
I have been doing that since they first showed them to us. I have always hated those faces.
Firstly that doesn't negate what I said regarding to how the IDW comics themselves portrayed post-war Optimus. (Seriously, they had a whole story-arc blatently called 'All Hail Optimus Prime' just in case the subject matter was too subtle for readers) Secondly, Hot Rod / Rodimus putting Prime on a pedestal and comparing himself unfavorable to him is right out of G1.
Actually, a lot of the things you ding IDW's portrayal of Hot Rod for stems directly from G1 where he's an impatient hot head with an inferiority complex whose leadership style is far less stoic and composed than Optimus. Hot Rod is not Optimus and a big part of his character is coming to terms with that and being his own kind of leader.
....and then getting dumped back to turbo-revving young punk becuase kids freaked out in the theaters and Hasbro had to bring Optimus back.
I mean, the Optimus' bumblebee movie head and face was a great improvement.
Because it's not relevant. How IDW chose to depict Optimus has little bearing on how it chose to depict Hot Rod/Rodimus.
You're (mostly) not wrong. I'm merely pointing out that Hot Rod being the butt of the joke happened in IDW, and I find it really interesting to see how some examples of that get the "they disrespected my boy" reactions vs "beloved modern classic" reactions.
Thing is whereas Eastman's Deviations just read like a 1996 bitter fanfic where Optimus survives '86 and everyone tells Hot Rod he sucks at every opportunity, Roberts made Hot Rod/Rodimus interesting even as he kicked him in the metaphorical nads. I suppose presentation goes a long way.
My main objection to the points you raised is I don't see G1 Rodimus knowingly pushing a subordinate into addictive and self-destructive behaviour. That was an IDW original.