Transformers the Movie 40th Anniversary Tour

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You know, we joke about a lot of things that the movie did and could have done better, but killing off Optimus to replace him with Rodimus was apparently just the tip of the iceberg according to an old review of the movie from 1998 that I found on alt.toys.transformers back when I was making the ATT archive that I made on the wiki.

I've been meaning to share this review on here for some time since I found it rather amusing, but kept forgetting about it. But now, in light of this occasion, I guess now's as good a time as any.

It was written by Robert Powers (also known online as "repowers") and followed a screening of the movie at BotCon 1998. . . .

Robert Powers was active here at one point, but based on his profile, hasn't been around in a few years. I remember when he was kindof a big deal on ATT and then here later on. I still have his fanfic page bookmarked, but haven't gone back to read those stories in a really long time.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Never mind the extra "you already have Optimus Prime, I'm not buying you another one" on the toy aisles.

Mind, I'm not acting like Transformers invented the same character/new toy dynamic. He-Man was already selling Battle Armor upgrades back before Transformers even hit TV screens to keep the marquee characters on the toy shelves. But I imagine it was easier for convince the above example to drop $5 on He-Man Again than it would be to ask them to do the same for Ultra Magnus's $35.
And yet...


Lucky for me, I didn't already own an Optimus Prime yet, and my parents didn't count Ultra Magnus...

Meanwhile, over in Japan, they couldn't kill Optimus again fast enough, and made this a different guy.

Makes me wonder how my parents would have reacted if I did have the OG OP and they released a new character who's the spitting image of him.
 

Donocropolis

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I love that the brand takes itself exactly as seriously as is appropriate for a toy company. Count me in on hoping that they bring the movie back to theaters, even if only a small run. A couple of years ago, Fathom Events did a couple of showings in select theaters, but it was on an otherwise very busy weekend and I didn't get a chance to go despite very much wanting to. I never have seen it in a theater setting, being 6 when it came out and beholden to my parents' whims on what movies to take me to. I DID see the Gobots movie, though, so I got that going for me.
 

Sabrblade

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Meanwhile, over in Japan, they couldn't kill Optimus again fast enough, and made this a different guy.

Makes me wonder how my parents would have reacted if I did have the OG OP and they released a new character who's the spitting image of him.
But remember, Japan didn't get his first death the first time around. Japan jumped straight from Season 2 to Season 3 with Optimus already being dead. So, The Headmasters was the first time Japan got to watch him die onscreen.

TFTM didn't make it to Japan until 1989, and only at charity screenings of the English version with Japanese subtitles. The Japanese dub of the movie was a direct-to-VHS release, and even that release still advertised the separate VHS release of the English version because of it starring Leonard Nimoy and Orson Welles, who were popular in Japan at the time.

Japan wasn't as attached to Optimus as the western world was because they were already so used to multi-year series switching out the main hero(es) every year with new ones, like with Kamen Rider, Ultraman, Super Sentai, and more. The expectation of there being a different new hero to look forward to every year was (and still is) the norm in Japan. Keeping the same heroes over and over is more of a thing in the west than the east.
 

Blot

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I love that the brand takes itself exactly as seriously as is appropriate for a toy company. Count me in on hoping that they bring the movie back to theaters, even if only a small run. A couple of years ago, Fathom Events did a couple of showings in select theaters, but it was on an otherwise very busy weekend and I didn't get a chance to go despite very much wanting to. I never have seen it in a theater setting, being 6 when it came out and beholden to my parents' whims on what movies to take me to. I DID see the Gobots movie, though, so I got that going for me.

Rep at Toy Fair mentions they're doing theatre showings of the film this September.
 

Steamed Hams

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40th. God it wasn't long ago it was the 20th which by screenshots looked more competent then 'Reconstructed' and there was excitement with a live action movie on the way (despite TWO WORDS: Michael Bay), IDW comics with Furmans rejected movie script in comic form and Beast Wars the Gathering revitalising Beast Wars after all that anime Transformers stuff.
 

LordGigaIce

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40th. God it wasn't long ago it was the 20th which by screenshots looked more competent then 'Reconstructed' and there was excitement with a live action movie on the way (despite TWO WORDS: Michael Bay), IDW comics with Furmans rejected movie script in comic form and Beast Wars the Gathering revitalising Beast Wars after all that anime Transformers stuff.

 

Steamed Hams

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It's just that first arc he did, Infiltration, read like a movie script at the time. There's been a few comics trying to do that in that period some like 30 Days of Night were successful, it died down when issue 6 was just Megatron v Starscream.
 

LordGigaIce

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It's just that first arc he did, Infiltration, read like a movie script at the time.
Ok sure, but it was never intended to be a movie script so saying Furman had a "rejected" script is just wrong.

which by screenshots looked more competent then 'Reconstructed'
I have no idea what this means.

and there was excitement with a live action movie on the way (despite TWO WORDS: Michael Bay)
Michael Bay shot this franchise into the stratosphere and I'm tired of pretending he didn't.

and Beast Wars the Gathering revitalising Beast Wars after all that anime Transformers stuff.
Beast Wars the Gathering didn't revitalize anything. It was mildly popular and died down. Neither of IDW's Beast Wars comics made much of a splash, but either way? What the flying hell does Beast Wars have to do with the '86 movie?

And "anime stuff"? Come on dude. Come the hug on.
 

LordGigaIce

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Does Bay even deserve credit for the 2007 movie's success?
The entire "Bumblebee is Sam's first car" premise was Spielberg's idea.
Sure, but Bay had his name on it. And RotF, DotM, and AoE all out performed '07, and those were all Bay.
 

Steamed Hams

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You do get that I was referencing my perspective at the time in that post right? we know how things turned out, how things shifted.
 

LordGigaIce

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TFTM and '07 are kind of kindred spirits in a way.
Both shaped the fandom in huge ways, both fundamentally changed how Hasbro saw and engaged with the brand and fanbase, and both are relatively simple stories that are jazzed up (heh) with visual spectacle and great music.
And both put different parts of the fandom into different camps with dividing lines over certain things that, long after the fact, some people just can't move past.

I think that's why I find the Apology Tour so perfect. It's so perfectly unserious. Are you someone who was genuinely upset that your robo truck dad died in a cartoon forty years ago? Hey, come laugh at it, have a good time. Are you someone who spent decades screaming at people upset about their robo truck dad dying? Well this is a bit of fun that pokes fun at how silly the whole thing was.

It decouples the stupid SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET 😡 aspect of it all and just goes "hey here's a movie we all like for one reason or another, come out, have a good time."
 
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