Transformers: One - New Animated Prequel coming September 20th, 2024 - New Toy Official Images!

[Donocropolis]

I remember being a kid and loving Pokemon. I gave it up when I got to be 13-14 because "that's kiddie stuff." Fast forward to me being 20 and staying up to 3 am playing Pokemon Fire Red

Adolescence is a weird time. You're trying to figure out how to be an adult despite not yet being done with childhood, and your hormones are raging so EVERYTHING feels more important than it actually is.

Childhood psychology is a fascinating area, but the cruelest part of it is that no one's ever happy.
As a little kid you want to be a teen, because it's like being the best parts of being a kid and an adult and it seems cool.
As a teen you want to be an adult because you don't wanna be treated like a kid anymore and you assume you're ready for "real responsibilities."
As an adult you lament the loss of both your childhood and teenage years because you didn't have so many responsibilities. Everyone is caught in a cycle of wanting what they can't have and not appreciating what they do until it's too late.

The bigger issue is that the transition from childhood to adulthood is really a very messy, awkward journey and it's evolutionarily meant to be that way. Teens act out, mock what they once treasured as kids, and push boundaries because they're basically overgrown kids who finally have a chance to enter the adult world, but they don't understand what that entails. So they test limits, they mock, they jeer, they cycle through fads and identities like socks, all attempting to understand what adult society's limits are and what their place in it is.

Of course not everyone goes through the same stuff... some people maintain a rather balanced perspective through all of this... but it is messy and a disaster for most of us

As a father of a teen and seeing it happen in real time, I can confirm.

 

[LordGigaIce]

As a father of a teen and seeing it happen in real time, I can confirm.

I see it all the time at work. You just gotta roll with it because nothing you tell them about what they're going through is gonna land

 

[Donocropolis]

I see it all the time at work. You just gotta roll with it because nothing you tell them about what they're going through is gonna land

Very true!

 

[CoffeeHorse]

I skipped being a teenager, apparently. I didn't feel a single hormone, and I never lost or pretended to lose interest in anything I enjoyed as a kid. I've just been me the whole time.

I still dress like a teenager though, but that's just because I can't find clothes that fit.

 

[Sabrblade]

and I never lost or pretended to lose interest in anything I enjoyed as a kid.

Not even the things you enjoyed as a toddler/preschooler? Those are usually the first ones to go.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

My favorite movie back then was Fantasia. I can't say my taste in music has changed.

 

[Platypus Prime]

I like to think my sense of humor is far more sophisticated nowadays.

But it's not.

There's a reason my nephew banned me from Sodor...

 

[Sabrblade]

I like to think my sense of humor is far more sophisticated nowadays.

But it's not.

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There's a reason my nephew banned me from Sodor...


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♪ They the smallest in the station! Don't underestimate 'em! They're not such little engines after all! ♪

 

[LordGigaIce]

I skipped being a teenager, apparently. I didn't feel a single hormone, and I never lost or pretended to lose interest in anything I enjoyed as a kid. I've just been me the whole time.

I still dress like a teenager though, but that's just because I can't find clothes that fit.

I was kinda all over the place. Stuff like Pokemon seemed kiddie and "below me" when I entered my teens, but I still collected Transformers. Even if I kept them in the closet, ashamed

ofc nerd culture took off and became much more socially acceptable after I got to uni, but even now as a teacher... I see the same stuff playing out. There's more of an acceptance of geekery among today's teens, but you still have that very adolescent urge to seem very grown up.

 

[MrBlud]

Paramount is going to be so overloaded with debt they aren’t going to have purse strings for “Bayhem”

TLK cost between $217-260 Million and LOST 100 million. ROTB was around 200 Million and was also a financial disappointment.

You might get $150 million but that’s not gonna cover a lot. You could probably do that with something like “Infiltration” with a lot of practical car work and Holomatter avatars but that’s not Bay’s purview.

 

[Sabrblade]

Paramount is going to be so overloaded with debt they aren’t going to have purse strings for “Bayhem”

TLK cost between $217-260 Million and LOST 100 million. ROTB was around 200 Million and was also a financial disappointment.

You might get $150 million but that’s not gonna cover a lot. You could probably do that with something like “Infiltration” with a lot of practical car work and Holomatter avatars but that’s not Bay’s purview.

They're probably banking on the Sonic movies to keep them afloat.

 

[Platypus Prime]

How on Earth could a Bay movie cost that much? All you need is a box of dynamite and a shaky camera...

 

[Haywire]

I got lucky in my teenage years, I guess; my dad kind of pushed me to "give up" toys when I was 12 or 13, but since I was the oldest of (what was eventually) 8 kids, I could always buy toys "for my younger brothers and sisters", and playing with them was looked upon as being a good brother, and exempt from the growing up imperitive. (Oddly, I still collected comics and Godzilla movies through this time, and not much was said about that.)
By the time my last sibling was born, I was 20, living on my own, and it was 2001; while I still bought toys for my younger brothers and sisters, Robots In Disguise absolutely dragged me into collecting Transformers as an adult, and I never stopped after that.

 

[LordGigaIce]

My mom sold all of my non-dinosaur toys when I turned 13, but once I got a part time job well... I discovered free will.

 

[CrockAlley]

This idea, "'it's not as bad as the other ones' isn't good enough to sell a movie".... That means the other ones were bad. The comparison between 2007 and TF1 isn't level, because TF1 comes at the end of a long stream of increasingly-bad movies (except for maybe Bumblebee, but it was already too late by then.) People were getting tired, and I think the finical situation of the past 3 movies is partially a result of the low-quality of the previous 3. I don't think it has much to do with TF1's story. I just think Transformers as a theatrical brand is tainted.

 

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

I wonder how long they'll let Bay do his thing while losing money for them (assuming that he stays on course from where he left off and where things have gone since) before giving him the ol' heave-ho again.

 

[Superomegaprime]

How on Earth could a Bay movie cost that much? All you need is a box of dynamite and a shaky camera...

Make up for the planks of wood, er, I mean actors, food, drink, paying the camera man, explosives and gun experts don't want another rust sitution now, do we? Then there's hauling everyone and everything out to the site, then there's the script writer, Bay's fee, after that the VFX artists as much of the film is going to have CGI robots unless you know of some real RID to come and preform in the film? That accounts for much of the budget, then there's the people who take a cut yet don't do anything for the film, plus the reshoots

 

[Sabrblade]

I wonder how long they'll let Bay do his thing while losing money for them (assuming that he stays on course from where he left off and where things have gone since) before giving him the ol' heave-ho again.

Bay wanted out after the third one, but Hasbro and Paramount wouldn't let him go.

 

[lastmaximal]

The lack of follow-up to One is unfortunate, but not surprising. And honestly, at this point... ehh. I'd be lying if I said I was particularly eager for more Hemsworth as Prime. That performance was okay, but I like it less with each clip rewatched.

Looking back, One is kind of an odd thing in that it's simultaneously "good because it's good", "good because it's not bad", and "good but we think it's better than it is because we want it to be so good and do so well". It mostly shines in comparison to something else rather than shining with its own light and quality (which is not to forget that it HAS quality). It's kind of like Rise of the Beasts in that way, in that in both cases I left the theater feeling... not a lot. Which is sad to say, given that each was better than the latter half of the Bay era. The brand just needs more than that right now. It needs to catch fire. And, like I've been thinking since TLK, maybe what it needs to be able to do that is just take a break and lay dormant.

At this point, irrespective of One and whether Two or whatever will ever be or not, I'm kind of burned out. I don't see much that gives me something to hope for. Not after years of stagnating in the suits' inability to just cut clean and reboot already, poisoning their product with "ehhhh it's a sequel soft reboot takes place in the same something new". Not after predictably bringing back the name deservingly associated with the live-action franchise's highest highs and lowest lows.

Not after fumbling Bumblebee, which wasn't stellar either but made me content to shrug and/or roll my eyes at the flood of "the first five minutes should have been the whole movie based solely on their resemblance to G1, what do you mean the faces and legs are weird", because it meant getting a live-action Transformers movie that had an explicit, not hinted at or implied, heart and soul to it. Not after following that up with Store Brand Bayhem whose big sequel hook was We're Tying This To An Even Deader Brand.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

I don't know what I would advise them to do at this point if they're not willing to be talked into "Just go dormant for a while." I don't see audiences giving them another chance.