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Haywire

Collecter of Gobots and Godzilla
Citizen
Just like their Transformers stuff being less articulated than Action Masters. Super7 has absolutely lost the plot.
I think the 5-PoA ReAction figure pattern existed long before they got the GI Joe and Transformer licenses. Even then, for things like Troopers and Greenshirts, I'm not sure full articulation is necessary. (I've long wished for a set of unarticulated Plastic Army Men scaled and decoed as Joe Greenshirts and Cobra Troopers for simple troop-building purposes).

That said, Super7 has course-corrected their Joe offerings with the ReAction+ line, which have all the articulation of the original Joe 3-3/4" figures:
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This is Super7's MASS Device Cover Girl from ReAction+ wave 1
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Sgt Slaughter and Leatherneck are the last 3-3/4" figures from Hasbro, they came with Kup. Cover Girl is Super7 ReAction+, and Crankcase is (as far as I know) vintage.
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ReAction+ Cobras: Tomax and Xamot in their Extensive Enterprises suits had some QC issues, but they have the classic articulation. The B.A.T. has full articulation, and both arms can use the interchangeable utensils. The only major change is molded chest details instead of the original lenticular sticker.
Spin Master's been killing it with their DC offerings at that scale. It's kind of nuts what you get at that size and price point from Spin Master compared to Hasbro's Marvel kids stuff.
Exactly. They have 2-3 accessories, and a good range of characters. Plus a variety of vehicles and affordable small play accessory sets that were just fun. It's a shame they lost the license to Mattel.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
I find amusing since Spin Master has, largely, scuttled any 4" offerings for the year, minus some Batman Ninja stuff that I'm not entirely confident will even see US distribution.

We'll see what Mattel offers next year :p
Oh man, Mattel.

So I like Stargirl. She's fun, she has a retro golden age aesthetic I like, she's a great JSA member, and the JSA is my favourite part of DC.
McFarlane doesn't look like he'll be making a Stargirl before his licence runs out so I bought an old Mattel DC Universe Stargirl figure for my McFarlane DC collection. True, Mattel's stuff was six inches and Todd's is seven, but she's supposed to be a teenager so I can fudge that.

Anyway it gets here and holy hell this thing is bad. The hips are unsightly but at least they're functional. She can't stand though, not even with a figure stand. And she can't hold her staff. At all. Like the physics of how the toy was designed don't work with the one accessory she comes with. It's a total clusterf**k.

Needless to say... I'm tentatively curious to see what Mattel has planned for DC, but it does suck they're getting the licence back when what McFarlane and Spin Master have been putting out laps Mattel's last offering tenfold.

I'm curious what Spin Master's six inch Superman line is like, as their four inch stuff packed a lot of articulation and accessories in for the price you paid. I'm sure it's good... but I just don't see myself checking it out.

I think the biggest issue for me with Hasbro's kids offerings is just how limited they've kept it. I'm under no illusion about its nature, but it's a bit frustrating that, nearly two years in, they've only made 5 villains (with Venom being VASTLY overused, repainted into a sixth "character", and Doc Ock being a 5 POA). Over that same time, the Avengers line has amounted to 6 members and three villains.
The Marvel kids stuff is just kinda... there. The Star Wars kids stuff looks interesting though. I don't love Star Wars enough to get a full cast of characters in Black series, but a four inch Darth Vader and four inch Luke for the desk might be fun. Maybe a Darth Maul too because I was cursed to be eleven when Phantom Menace came out and thus still labour under the delusion that he's cool.

I love that GI Joe fans who were open to a new scale and/or who can afford to start a new collection are eating really good with a line made by people who clearly have a love for the franchise. But I wish the pendulum would swing back toward 4-inch, or at least that collectors of that scale would get something that wasn't "here's construction we moved last, because we need to milk that for a change". The new modern sculpts in the Retro line (well, the FANG pilot) just before it became o-rings again were pretty neat.
I'll say this for Classified at the six inch scale. It's REALLY good and I'm not even much of a GI Joe fan. I only have a Cobra Commander and two Crimson Vipers and that's about all I need but I am very impressed with what I have.

Marvel Legends and Star Wars Black Series are licensed products so part of the production cost goes to paying Disney.
GI Joe Classified, though, is entirely in house and it really shows what Hasbro can do at the six inch scale when unencumbered. Like I said, I have two Crimson Vipers and I've managed to make both of them feel like unique figures based just off of being selective with their accessory loadouts. They come that packed with stuff.

I find myself missing the high end 3.75/4 inch scale too, but part of me thinks those days aren't coming back? I have Marvel 3.75 inch Iron Man and Mandarin on my desk right now, from the heyday of that scale. These things are mini six inch figures with how much articulation they pack in.

As awesome as they are... I just don't see Hasbro or anyone else putting that kind of money into a scale commonly associated with "kids lines" these days. Six and seven inch is just where the collectors market is now.

Which makes Spin Master losing DC even sadder, because they were the closest we got to those 3.75 fully articulated Hasbro figures in a good while. They really pressed the limits of what was possible at the $8-$10/4 inch "kids toy" price point.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
I'm curious what Spin Master's six inch Superman line is like, as their four inch stuff packed a lot of articulation and accessories in for the price you paid. I'm sure it's good... but I just don't see myself checking it out.


I find myself missing the high end 3.75/4 inch scale too, but part of me thinks those days aren't coming back? I have Marvel 3.75 inch Iron Man and Mandarin on my desk right now, from the heyday of that scale. These things are mini six inch figures with how much articulation they pack in.

As awesome as they are... I just don't see Hasbro or anyone else putting that kind of money into a scale commonly associated with "kids lines" these days. Six and seven inch is just where the collectors market is now.
I checked out the Superman line. They look fine, well articulated, well detailed. Hasbro's Core Snake Eyes basic figures are a pretty apt point of comparison. Spin Master gave up an accessory (they WERE cutting back, if you looked at the last round of stuff from last year with Blue Beetle) for a BAF piece, which is novel at that price range these days. Spin Master is also doing some 1.5" figures designed to work with the Kaiju figure they're pushing for the line.

Here's the issues I've seen/read/heard about 3.75/4" figures in today's market:
First off, when you compare the two scales with an equivalent "quality" of product, the actual production costs aren't vastly different between the two. For us, we have Star Wars Vintage Collection and Black for comparison points. They are basically the "same caliber" of product at two different scales. A 3.75" figure retails for $16.99, 6" at $24.99, but the larger scale and "collector bias", Hasbro can justify charging more for the larger figure, which nets a better margin for both Hasbro and retailers. Most specialty 4" figures are running $20-30 for something equivalent to what Hasbro releases in the 6" format for $25. Heck, even Hiya Toys (known for their high quality 3.75" figures) has started to shift to 6" products.

Further, that 3.75" "hey day" came at a time when the bulk of a given brand's marketing and product output were geared around that scale. When companies decided to "split the mass market", they split the buying base. Collectors get some nice stuff...but we pay for it. While companies nickel and dime to keep the kids' stuff affordable in the face of rising costs and declining interest. Which leads to...

The big selling point of 3.75 has always been the idea that they would be cheap and push consumers to purchase larger, more expensive (with higher margin) items while still being small enough to not blow out the budget and ship more variety. Almost none of that really applies anymore. Kids don't seem to buy into toy lines like they used to, they have seemingly shifted towards a "souvenier" type mindset. Kids are getting fewer toys, and despite the scale change, I'm not seeing Hasbro increase volume or variety in the product being released.
Hell, WE (the adult collector) might even part of the issue: a recent issue of The Toybook had an article about how kids "play" was shift more to a "display and collect" mentality, instead of the old school "scenario acting" most of us did with our toys. Largely due to how social media posters have portrayed THEIR habits.
(I took a long time to try and hunt down the article, but I can't find it at the moment.)
 

CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
Staff member
Council of Elders
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Hell, WE (the adult collector) might even part of the issue: a recent issue of The Toybook had an article about how kids "play" was shift more to a "display and collect" mentality, instead of the old school "scenario acting" most of us did with our toys. Largely due to how social media posters have portrayed THEIR habits.

We should use this power responsibly.
But that wouldn't be fun.​

Gizmoboy, get in here. I have an idea.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
So, uh...

The original statement about no TF One sequel, quoted directly from the source:

 

lastmaximal

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
Only three real contenders there, I feel, with One still being the underdog (I think it may be even with The Wild Robot).

I do hope it wins. With Keanu getting the nod in his category and Maya in hers.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
Are we even eligible to vote?
I think I'm old enough to qualify as several kids by now, depending on what age we divide them up into.

I'll wear my biggest trenchcoat.
 


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