Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: stock renders of upcoming Alpha Trion, Micronus, Flatline, Fireflight, Skydive, ++

[Steevy Maximus]

What hat?

The original Tigerhawk toy had a helmet-thing that could come down on his beast mode head, That didn’t make onto the show model, which turned it into a crest/crown thing. AotP Razorclaw features some different tooling on beast mode which gives him something closer to that full helmet look In beast mode.

Edit: I might be looking at it wrong. It might be the same sculpt as United Tigerhawk with the head fully painted to replicate that helmet look rather than any alternate tooling.

 

[Sabrblade]

It's the same tiger head. There is no bird beak helmet.

 

[CrockAlley]

I'm in a lot of the modern game for the redecos. Sadly after the apparent heyday of Selects we're down to a bit less than before (and most of it in an exclusive capsule or another), but sometimes we still get the occasional Razorclaw (yay). It's just enough drip-fed hope to get me to still wonder about a possible Cryotek. Or Glyph. Or Tap-Out. Etc.

If this gets us a new mass market (or close enough) Blue Big Convoy or Ultra Mammoth (or an all-new color scheme on Slammoth), hoo boy.

I guess I'll be happy that none of the repaints had cartoon appearances, so they stand a chance of having better alt-mode colors if they ever make new toys of them. (I understand why cartoons have to simplify designs, I just don't love when they turn around and make toys of the simplified designs.)

 

[Exatron]

I'm still loving all the Primes. Looking forward to messing with Amalgamous. I'm a bit surprised that Quintus doesn't seem to take anything from Earthspark. Looks good though.

It'll be nice to finally get a Big Convoy. I had the Universe Nemesis redeco, but never the regular one. Also looking forward to putting Razorclaw in the Unicron display along with Galvatron, Sideways, and RotB Scourge. Really, the Junkions are the only new AotP toys I don't want.

Also really looking forward to seeing Jetfire. I always loved him, both in the show and especially his toy. As a Commander, I'm really hoping they can manage to make him both a solid figure in his own right AND an actually functional pair of pants. I hope they do a new Overload at some point too.

 

[lastmaximal]

Now I'm wondering if they'll also do Jetfire as a "figure with frame" situation, or something like Armada Op as well where the jetpants legs are in a "trailer" and not the main robot.

Like the front half of the shuttle, maybe with its own shorter wings, turns into the main robot while the rear half turns into the legs (the main robot can fold up and lock into it as a low backpack or, uh, fanny pack). This seems like it could work because Jetfire's transformation was by necessity fairly simple -- pull out arms, fold shuttle nose down, separate back half into legs, flip up wings. Could do that with the front half of the shuttle, with the rear just being jetpants (can even still have the opening bay at the top).

 

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

Agreed, I never understood the whole "But they should have named it-" things. If I ever think I have a better name I just change it to whatever I want, it's MY shelf...

I suspect it's a holdover from when we had tie-in fiction.

It's one thing to buy a toy with a weird label and then just call it "George," but a whole other if you're watching a cartoon or comic book and they're always calling the character something you find ridiculous.

 

[lastmaximal]

And I suppose to be fair, one of the cool things about the franchise originally was the cool names. (The same brand has someone officially called "Steve From Accounting", which I will eternally appreciate)

Although the "they should have named it" stuff tends to come from backlash over reusing names for trademark maintenance or just casually throwing whatever name's available or coming up with (sometimes clunky) new names rather than spending on verifying or re-registering etc. But yeah, I long ago embraced repurposing and ignoring names where it suited me.

 

[unluckiness]

What I like about this Big Convoy is that he looks big. The original toy isn’t small by any means but take away any sense of scale and he ends up looking kind of lanky, particularly in the limbs. The new Big Convoy is a Big Chungus with girders for arms and tree trunks for legs. Even the massless 3D renders exude size.

 

[Rustron]

Quickstrike is... I don't know, I'd have to see him side by side with his original version. It's a bit like with Silverbolt, where his original figure is already so accurate that the new one is going to have a hard time bringing anything of note to the table, specially since I never minded him being translucent.

Blast Off and Brawl look cool. Glad that Brawl has all his weapons, at least, given they upped him to Voyager.

I'm liking Quintus way more than I expected, he's got a very "Beast Machines" vibe going on that I love. I wish they'd done him as a voyager, so that they could have given him more, and more articulated, tentacles and limbs.

Amalgamous looks very interesting too, something about his silhouette and colors screams "Reboot Diaclone" to me. Waiting to see how effective he is as a fan-mode engine and weaponizer. Honestly both Primes from this wave are surprisingly cool, after finding most of the Thirteen so far a bit too generic.

I KNEW Razorclaw would look cool, still waiting on that Cryotek.

I was looking forward to Big Convoy but there's something off about him, like he looks sort of chubby or janky, I'm not sure. He still has going for him that he'll be easier to get than the original and its reissues. Will probably have to wait to see him in video or in person to form a proper opinion.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

It's the same tiger head. There is no bird beak helmet.

Sadness. I wanted the helmet. I get why everything is toon now, but it would be nice for repaints to have some of the missing toy bits added back so we get a taste of both.

 

[unluckiness]

I wanted the helmet because Tigerhawk’s beast head is pretty bad. It’s pretty puffy and nonthreatening

 

[Superomegaprime]

I wanted the helmet because Tigerhawk’s beast head is pretty bad. It’s pretty puffy and nonthreatening

DNA Desgin has a upgrade kit for the figure, I haven't gotten it myself, yet but I might do so in the near future along with the upgrade kit for Armada Megatron and Galvatron, thou the idiot who thought limiting the shoulders was a good idea should be demoted as it really bugs me which is kind of why I soured on the legacy G2 Optimus desgin, it looks good but the whole shoulder thing just bugs me, the desginers were clearly thinking they were being clever but it was clearly a ego thing as it doesn't look as threatening when the shoulders don't move and it looks like some kind of weight training going on!

 

[Echowarrior]

I wanted the helmet because Tigerhawk’s beast head is pretty bad. It’s pretty puffy and nonthreatening

There are at least two third party options for the helmet.

 

[Steevy Maximus]

Quickstrike is... I don't know, I'd have to see him side by side with his original version. It's a bit like with Silverbolt, where his original figure is already so accurate that the new one is going to have a hard time bringing anything of note to the table, specially since I never minded him being translucent.

I was looking forward to Big Convoy but there's something off about him, like he looks sort of chubby or janky, I'm not sure. He still has going for him that he'll be easier to get than the original and its reissues. Will probably have to wait to see him in video or in person to form a proper opinion.

The big gain for Quickstrike, and most of the Beast remakes, is ease of availability and lower cost relative to getting the original on the second hand market. Not being translucent may be a boon for longevity, and I think the new one skews even closer to the show model (good for show accuracy hounds). But if you’re happy with the original? Like a LOT of the post-1997 remakes, most of the modern takes are going to be side-grades.

A possible issue with Big Convoy might be kibble positioning. I know he has his “shoulder missiles” folded up at SDCC, and I think some of that perception might simply be how Hasbro has him posed. The render (with stuff in appropriate positions) looked fantastic.

 

[Superomegaprime]

The big gain for Quickstrike, and most of the Beast remakes, is ease of availability and lower cost relative to getting the original on the second hand market. Not being translucent may be a boon for longevity, and I think the new one skews even closer to the show model (good for show accuracy hounds). But if you’re happy with the original? Like a LOT of the post-1997 remakes, most of the modern takes are going to be side-grades.

A possible issue with Big Convoy might be kibble positioning. I know he has his “shoulder missiles” folded up at SDCC, and I think some of that perception might simply be how Hasbro has him posed. The render (with stuff in appropriate positions) looked fantastic.

The shoulder missiles are likely on ball joints like the original but with a few alterations to ensure they stay in place

 

[unluckiness]

There are at least two third party options for the helmet.

They help a bit but they can't cover up those adorable hamster cheeks. I also don't like the scrawny hind legs, which really wouldn't be so bad if the front legs weren't so beefy. After all the excellent Generations beast modes, the one made-up cyborg is the one that's bad?

 

[Sabrblade]

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