Transformers: Age of the Primes Thread: ll First Post All Listings II Update : April 12th, 2027 Bonus Wave: Repaint fun, Beast Wars, G2, Machine Wars
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That sounds like current Hasbro thinking. Prior teams would have just left out the blue. The current team seems to have a bias towards being comprehensive, even if it means merging things that really don't go together.
And yet if they slavishly reproduced the BotCon/OTFCC people would complain that there's "no point."
The colours aren't exact, but I can tell this thing is supposed to be Megazarek by looking at it.
Honestly I think the other problem is, if you go to certain other Transformers communities, the same people who get annoyed when the latest Sunbow G1 guy's colors aren't 100% accurate to the character models are all 'IDK why people are complaining about the colors on Megazarak they look close enough' and it's just tiresome.
This cuts all ways though. I've seen people bash Hasbro for "G1 Sunbow Slop" (actual term I've seen thrown around) but who freak out if an Armada or Cybertron character gets a new toy that doesn't recreate the original 1 to 1.
It's best to just admit that there's no consistency on the internet. No one wants to be consistent or has the inclination to be. Everyone has the things that matter to THEM and they care a hell of a lot when Hasbro either gets it right or wrong, and they don't feel as strongly either way outside of those specific parameters.
There is a fair difference though. Sunbow accuracy means some characters get stripped of details they'd otherwise have. Prowl doesn't get to have his shoulder launchers anymore. That sucks. We've lost something.
Armada and Cybertron characters really don't have that. There's no tug of war between toy and toon accuracy. When new versions lose something, it's just a budget thing, not a "Well it wasn't in the toon anyway" thing.
Armada and Cybertron characters really don't have that. There's no tug of war between toy and toon accuracy. When new versions lose something, it's just a budget thing, not a "Well it wasn't in the toon anyway" thing.
Eh, the way I see it, G1 has two forms of accuracy. Sunbow vs toy. Sunbow Prowl doesn't have shoulder launchers, so he's not missing anything.
My G1 preferences will skew toy 90% of the time, but I also got a lot of what I wanted from that out of ER. This new Prowl done up in flat Sunbow detailing doesn't appeal to me, but I also don't have to buy it. It's an easy skip for me, I have ER Prowl and I'm happy with it.
My broader point, though, is that no one hugs every puppy. Some people love G1 toy accuracy, others Sunbow. Some people love the UT, others RiD or Prime or Animated or Bayverse or... I could go on. Point is, everyone has a few touchstones in this franchise that they absolutely care about and will be elated or angry at Hasbro if they nail or mess up the accuracy... but you'll have a better time getting blood from a stone then getting to consistently apply that to parts of the franchise they're not as passionate about.
Like if some guy who was 8 in 1984 loves G1 Optimus, of course they're going to want SS '86 Optimus to be as Sunbow accurate as possible. If that same guy just isn't as passionate about OTFCC Megazarek, or Armada Red Alert... I donno. I can't get mad at him for liking what he likes.
Everything should be exactly the color it was when I saw it riding in the shopping cart when I was four and it didn't stop long enough to see it properly. That color. No others. And his hands must be blue!
Like the argument seems to be "THESE GEEWUNNERS INSIST THAT CLIFFJUMPER NEEDS TO LOOK SUNBOW ACCURATE BUT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT MEGAZAREK" and it's like yeah. Some people care more about G1 Cliffjumper than 3H Megazarek.
Other people care a hell of a lot about 3H Megazarek and don't care about G1 all that much.
It happens. No one is passionate about EVERYTHING and you're going to drive yourself crazy trying to insist that people be equally passionate about the things they don't care about as the things they do.
Other people care a hell of a lot about 3H Megazarek and don't care about G1 all that much.
It happens. No one is passionate about EVERYTHING and you're going to drive yourself crazy trying to insist that people be equally passionate about the things they don't care about as the things they do.
On that note, Bumblebee must be red, like he was when I was a kid. And I'm not making that up, my Bumblebee WAS red despite being the VW mold.
(I actually wondered back in Classics if that was the idea they were going for, also for the two-pack of Cliffjumper and the repainted roller since in neither case was there any mold differences between it and Bumblebee from the same line. Later I found out they were just being cheap in the retool budget.).
(I actually wondered back in Classics if that was the idea they were going for, also for the two-pack of Cliffjumper and the repainted roller since in neither case was there any mold differences between it and Bumblebee from the same line. Later I found out they were just being cheap in the retool budget.).
tbh my other problem is that like...they give us new toys of G1 guys (or redecos of released toys) so damn often. 'oh no the colors aren't correct' damn that sucks, wait like a year or something they'll probably release a new one or redeco this one in more accurate colors.
but when are we gonna get the next 3H megazarak? maybe the next time we get a new armada megatron but when are we gonna get that?
but when are we gonna get the next 3H megazarak? maybe the next time we get a new armada megatron but when are we gonna get that?
Heh, well, now that we have New Legends from Takara, any wild card seems possible after, of all things, Nemesis Star Convoy, Titan class Gigastorm, and a completely new-molded BWII Galvatron.
Well, the time before last we got an Armada Megatron (from the Leader Class Megatron Tank) we didn't get Galvatron OR Megazarak, so even if the mold is there, it doesn't guarantee anything.
tbf that mould was a very hasty G1 Megatron with a head swap deal, so I can see the lack of enthusiasm for doing all the of the repaints from it.
With this mould, it was designed specially to be Armada Megatron. That will make it more appealing to get all of the repaints possible out of it. Hasbro's already doing that with Megazarak.
I think that's just cold, hard economics. More people care about G1 than a 3H homage. I'm sorry, but it's true.
I agree with you that if that's the case they should make their one shot at Megazarak count, and they did seem to come up short on that. And part of me is bummed the colour scheme isn't more accurate....
.... but between the colour scheme looking nice on its own and still being recognizably Margazarak... I'm content.
This is where I am as well. I'll probably get this, becuase its another no-longer con exclusive character. Would I like him to be more accurate? Sure. But I kinda like this version of him as he is.
Though looking at the offical OTFCC art, I can kinda see they gray being a bluer tone there, and the more prominent purple color (the toy, all pics i see the Purple is almost black looking)
(I'm not sayign or implying its the same, just that the gray there seems to have a blue tint, its still imo them trying to combine the colors )
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The original came out more than twenty years ago and costs $1000 on the secondary market. If anybody actually says there’s no point, they’re just stupid.
Keep in mind that there are still people who complain that there's no need for new Transmetals when it's suggested, saying most of them were 'close enough' to show accurate the first time. Ignoring that it was literally a generation ago-plus. Then they have a mortality crisis when you point it out.
These folks aren't concerned with making sense.