Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

NovaSaber

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Ungnome

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Just another reason to loath that man. Especially as someone from said targeted group.
 
Paladin

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call Donald a eunuch, because he's lost the Kochs.

www.rawstory.com

Koch network will oppose Trump in 2024

The web of conservative activist groups and donors informally known as the "Koch network" plans to oppose former President Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential primaries, reported The Washington Post on Sunday — breaking a years-long silence as the network has sat out "overt" politics for a few...
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Ironbite4

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Oh the Kochs have always hated that they were forced to back this man. But in 2016, he had waaaaaaaaaaaay to much sway over the party to even think of opposing him. But they've been building a network to move the GOP away from Trump since the disaster that was 2018. Now they're turning that network on and hoping to reap the benafits.

Ironbite-too bad they don't really understand the Cult's mentality.
 
The Mighty Mollusk

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If it were only themselves they were likely to slaughter, I wouldn't care much. It's the collateral damage that concerns me.
 
Ungnome

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Looks more and more like the fracture of the Republican party really is happening. Don't think this has happened in American politics since the Whigs dissolved back in the middle of the 19th century.
 
Pocket

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It'll never happen. The system cannot tolerate more than two active parties. What'll probably happen is that we'll see a handful (probably the same ones who kept voting against McCarthy) break off and try to run independently, lose, and become a quickly-forgotten footnote in history. Everyone else will stubbornly grit their teeth and keep working together because the party, as a whole, cares more about winning by any means necessary than any aspect of their actual policy.
 
Ungnome

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Don't get me wrong, they will re-coalesce into a new conservative party, but I could see a cycle or two where the conservative side is in total chaos as the MAGAT's try and do their own thing. It's essentially the same thing that happened when the Whigs collapsed. the Republican's emerged from their ashes a few years later.
 
NovaSaber

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www.vanityfair.com

Donald Trump, Longtime Friend of Jeffrey Epstein, Suggests Ron DeSantis Groomed High School Girls

As a reminder, the ex-president has literally been described as Epstein’s wingman, and he once called the deceased predator a “terrific guy” who was “a lot of fun to be with.”
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If you want some evidence that the mere idea of competing against the Florida governor sends the ex-president frantically searching for a commode, consider all of the things Trump has done in regard to the guy over the last several months, which have included but not been limited to:

  • Insisting DeSantis would have never been elected governor without his endorsement
  • Declaring that he “sent in the FBI” to ensure DeSantis beat out his Democratic opponent
  • Dubbing DeSantis “Ron DeSanctimonious”
  • Claiming the governor had rewritten history regarding Florida’s early handling of COVID-19
  • Threatening to reveal “things about [DeSantis] that won’t be very flattering”
  • Suggesting he’d do to DeSantis what he did to Ted Cruz—meaning he might insult the guy’s wife and imply his father killed Kennedy
And while we’d never suggest that Trump is above insinuating that one of his opponents is a pedophile—the ex-president is, after all, not above anything—one might have expected him to at least wait until DeSantis had officially announced his candidacy to do so. But apparently, one would be incorrect.
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Anyway, back to Trump’s social media musings, which raise a number of questions, such as (1) what is he going to say about DeSantis if and when the guy actually jumps in the race, and (2) has the ex-president forgotten that he backed Roy Moore for Senate even after the guy was accused of initiating “sexual encounter” with teens when he was in his 30s? Or that he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein; described Epstein as a “terrific guy” who was “a lot of fun to be with”; and reportedly served as Epstein’s wingman and vice versa? Obviously, if DeSantis did in fact do something inappropriate, none of the aforementioned things would negate that, but it’s important to remember that both Trump and DeSantis are terrible and neither of them should be president. (Moore has denied the claims against him.)
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www.motherjones.com

GOP operative sentenced to 18 months for funneling Russian money to Trump

Judge finds a "pattern of deception" by a longtime Republican consultant.
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NovaSaber

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...
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o_O
 
Ironbite4

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Yeah I'm pretty sure none of these people have actually read the Bible. Or really, any book on why this is a bad thing to do.
 
The Mighty Mollusk

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Neat. So is anything actually going to be done this time, or are we still just waiting for him to die of age before actual consequences happen?
 
wonko the sane?

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You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Delay and obstruct is literally all he's ever done in court, since forever. If this is news, then it's old ******* news.
 
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