They're fairly obviously buried in his wife's coffin.
But the easiest way to get access to all of that is to arrest and charge his ass already.
But the easiest way to get access to all of that is to arrest and charge his ass already.
Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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This story is honestly bewildering to me. Mainly because I can't work out why Trump was holding on to the empty folders if he had sold or got rid of the documents. Anything seems plausible from "Trump sold the documents to the Russians but kept the folders because he is just that dumb" to "Trump honestly thought he was doing the right thing and had just removed the documents from the folder and has them in a desk drawer somewhere."
Also surprised that they have apparently not searched any of his other properties?
Also surprised that they have apparently not searched any of his other properties?
...Something just hit me. We've been talking about this as if foreign governments are the only ones who could get any use out of the intel he had. But Trump has other allies who wouldn't hesitate to use force against the US. Ones who live and operate within our own borders. The same kind of people who stormed the Capitol. And he's spent way more time around them since he left office than he's spent overseas.
Yeah, and when you openly advocate overthrowing a legitimate government for fascism, killing minorities, and imprisoning (at best.) political opponents: it's still treason even if they are citizens. While the revelation is valid (gonna be frank: it did not occur to me, but I was still seething over the fact he might have compromised canadian security.) the only thing that really changes there is the shipping charges.
The National Archives already reported that they had received numerous classified documents that lacked those sorts of folder covers. It'll probably take months, maybe even years, to collate the material to discover what MIGHT have been lost or leaked.
Not saying this isn't a MASSIVE issue, just trying to...mitigate some concerns, at least to some degree.
This "record keeping snafu" is, ALONE, enough to arrest the man. The fact this is part of wider investigation is the frightening part.
It changes one big thing: If it is some major foreign power like Russia, there's pretty much jive-all we can do about whatever they're plotting to do. But people inside the US are under the jurisdiction of the DOJ and the FBI. They would be able to follow the chain of suspects as far as it might lead without ever overstepping their authority, and whoever it leads to can be arrested and tried like a common criminal.
Jared Kushner, the man every Intelligence agency in the nation screamed from the rooftops should never have access to a security clearance, got that security clearance and he and his wife proceeded to seemingly do "nothing" for four years.
He also recently cleared a $2 billion check from the Saudis.
But I'm sure that was unrelated.
He also recently cleared a $2 billion check from the Saudis.
But I'm sure that was unrelated.
Oh, there's plenty that can be done if a foreign nation has those papers. Once they know who and what was in them: they can change protocols and personel to attempt to restore some level of protection.
If they were handed to some dumb assed redneck: there is no limit to where that information has gone. Believe it or not, an american not affiliated with a government is the worst case scenario.
It’s the quiet, weasel, types you should watch the closest. Not the blow hard grabbing everyone’s attention…
Edward Snowden comes forcibly to mind.
Told ya.
And a judge has granted Trump's request for a special master to review the seized documents:
www.bbc.com
Trump allowed 'special master' in case over handling of classified documents
Donald Trump wins the right to an independent overseer in the investigation into classified records.
www.bbc.com
Anything marked confidential or top secret is by default government property and Trump has no right to have it back. He's just trying to delay any indictments until after the election so that a republican controlled house can throw a wrench into the works. Just another reason to do everything we can to KEEP the house blue.
It'll probably get tossed on appeal, it's a straight up delaying tactic. They need to find someone who has high enough security clearance to view everything AND won't be accused (even though its doesn't matter who it is, they will be accused.) of being biased against trump.
Frankly, I like the idea of letting trump recommend someone, giving them the security clearance needed to peruse all this stuff: then killing them when it's over. "I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you...".
Frankly, I like the idea of letting trump recommend someone, giving them the security clearance needed to peruse all this stuff: then killing them when it's over. "I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you...".
WaPo: Material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities seized at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
Top-secret files found at Mar-a-Lago included foreign military and nuclear details. Stay informed on this developing security issue.
www.dailykos.com
we gave the Rosenbergs the chair for less than this...
This is past the point where a swift trial, conviction, and execution is prudent. This is the kind of scenario where you'd want to lock him up and interrogate him for years about what other dark secrets he might be keeping.
I only regret that we've discovered that torture is ineffective at getting information out of people, because he sure as hell deserves no less.
I only regret that we've discovered that torture is ineffective at getting information out of people, because he sure as hell deserves no less.