Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
And he's going to find that chief among reasons is that the meat packing industry is largely owned by a small number of players, enforcing monopolies and owned by the people giving him money.

So it will quietly die... assuming he actually did anything at all.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
Between rising meat prices and China cutting back on their imports of soy, forcing us to find other uses for it, Trump might actually end up turning more Americans into vegetarians than any number of animal rights activists could ever dream of.

Work in a reference to the "soyboy" thing and there's a good comic in there somewhere.
 

CoffeeHorse

Hanging in there
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
And he's going to find that chief among reasons is that the meat packing industry is largely owned by a small number of players, enforcing monopolies

He actually did mention monopolies.

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The White House also put out some bullet points.

  • For too long, a handful of giant meat packers have squeezed America’s cattle producers, shrunk herds, and jacked up prices at the grocery store. By examining whether these companies have violated antitrust laws through coordinated pricing or capacity restrictions, this investigation will root out any illegal collusion, restore fair competition, and protect our food security.
  • The “Big Four” meat packers — JBS (Brazil), Cargill, Tyson Foods, and National Beef — currently dominate 85% of the U.S. beef processing market, up from just 36% in 1980. Two of these companies, including the largest meat packer in the world, are either foreign-owned or have significant foreign ownership and control.
  • Industry consolidation has crushed competition and hammered cattle producers. In the 1980s, the top four packers purchased one-third of all fed cattle; by the mid-1990s, that share exploded to over 80% and has only grown more concentrated since.
  • This has led to the exploitation of American consumers, farmers, and ranchers. In fact, mounting evidence shows this monopoly power has slashed payments to ranchers, reduced herd sizes, driven up consumer prices, and threatened America’s food supply chain.

I did a project on this in college. All these numbers sound familiar.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
He deported the workers, plants closed, supply crashed, prices spiked, ranchers got rich and now he's mad at…the companies he protected?
 

Ironbite4

Well-known member
Citizen
Ranchers didn't get rich and he's importing foreign beef to offset the prices from domestic.

Ironbite-CAN'T WAIT FOR MY A5 WAGUY TO BE 5.99 A POUND!
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
I should have said ranchers are getting rich, not got rich.

Prices for fed cattle are around $240 per hundredweight, the highest ever, so cow-calf producers are finally making money after years of drought and packer pressure. Imports only increased because US processing capacity was short, not because domestic ranchers were being undercut.
 

RichardT519

Well-known member
Citizen

Right after this guy collapses, RFK Jr. hoofs it out of the room as fast as his worm-piloted legs will let him, while Donnie stands around annoyed that this unconscious jerk had the nerve to pull all the attention away from him.

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I can't look at this without hearing the theme from Curb your Enthusiasm in my head...
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
Pomp and noise signifying nothing. None of those individuals were ever federally charged with anything, and a Presidential pardon does not apply to state or civil matters.

But after his widespread pardon of people charged in the January 6 event, this just continues to fuel the optics of how overtly corrupt he and much of the Republican party are to those outside the cult.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
I mean... if the average age of a first time home buyer is 40, you're expected to be paying a mortgage until you're 90... when the average age of death for americans is like 78?

This is the exact opposite of generational wealth. It's generational debt.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
It's a dumb plan from a dumb man who caters to dummies. Even those with half a brain are realizing that he's got nothing.
The cult remains but it is simply not enough.
 

NovaSaber

Well-known member
Citizen
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This is where we are as a country:
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Conversely: if your grand scheme hangs on the likes of bobo... Your scheme is foiled like it's saturday morning in the 80's.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
Meanwhile I'm curious what's going on with those right-wing voters who broke with Trump on this issue specifically and started demanding he release the files. Did they get bored and go back to bashing Democrats, or are they still on board with this? Y'all are my only source of evidence that such people ever existed so I don't know where else I can ask.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Don't forget: republicans are hypocrites. They might have only been claiming to be on board with releasing the epstein files cause they were bored what with the shutdown they caused. Or they might be genuinely interested because they know trump is ******* cooked no matter what, and can't count on his coat tails anymore.

Don't count on anything until it happens.
 


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